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  • antix2
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 141

    Aluma-Hyde vs oil

    So it finally got warm enough last week and I thought I would have a go at trying to paint a rifle.
    I did what I thought was a good job on degreasing but there it is. After a few days of curing it is obvious. It doesn't seem like a very big deal but I was hoping someone with experience might let me know if this is going to be bad after some time goes by?





    That is Aluma Hyde II Matte Black and I'm pretty sure I kept the can a little to far away but for this being my first time I'm pretty happy.
    Also thinking about about adding a second coat of semi-gloss for better matching the original paint so that's why I'm wondering about the possible oil issue. Any advice is appreciated.

    ps: Paint on parkerizing.
    Last edited by antix2; 04-08-2011, 3:02 AM. Reason: added info
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    uxo2
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4003

    Any oil/grease on part to b painted is bad no matter what paint you use.

    Completely degrease "" Dawn dishwashing soap and hot water"" or if you have access a
    mineral solvent tank.

    It is recomemnded that you scuff up the areas so the AlumaHyde will stick.


    Also...How about some overall pics of your project..
    It looks pretty good as it is
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    Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
    One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
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    • #3
      arfan66
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      • Jan 2006
      • 841

      If there is oil under the paint, it will either fish eye (looks like pin holes or small circles devoid of paint), appear wrinkled (dried paint wrinkles flake off when touched/brushed) or will just flake off when wiped with a dry cloth. The rings in your picture look like oil flowing from the back side of your receiver/fsb after your paint has started to cure.

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      • #4
        bigbob76
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 3955

        Originally posted by antix2
        So it finally got warm enough last week and I thought I would have a go at trying to paint a rifle.
        I did what I thought was a good job on degreasing but there it is. After a few days of curing it is obvious. It doesn't seem like a very big deal but I was hoping someone with experience might let me know if this is going to be bad after some time goes by?





        That is Aluma Hyde II Matte Black and I'm pretty sure I kept the can a little to far away but for this being my first time I'm pretty happy.
        Also thinking about about adding a second coat of semi-gloss for better matching the original paint so that's why I'm wondering about the possible oil issue. Any advice is appreciated.

        ps: Paint on parkerizing.
        I'm not suggesting you should do what I would do but having said that I would leave it as is and shoot it and bang it around and scuff it up. It's a biker chic not a prom queen! I would consider it a lesson learned and do more prep work on the next one.
        If you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein

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        • #5
          Roccobro
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 2907

          Originally posted by arfan66
          If there is oil under the paint, it will either fish eye (looks like pin holes or small circles devoid of paint), appear wrinkled (dried paint wrinkles flake off when touched/brushed) or will just flake off when wiped with a dry cloth. The rings in your picture look like oil flowing from the back side of your receiver/fsb after your paint has started to cure.
          ^^This^^

          Try rubbing it with a clean cloth. If it stays, it is oil on top of the paint and will last. I see the same type of oil wander on a fresh painted or parked rifles. Even had cosmo show itself like that a week or two after parkerizing.

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          no it can't!
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          YES IT CAN!
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          • #6
            antix2
            Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 141

            It's magic grease! I was at it for an hours I think spending a whole bottle of Magic Green and tons of super hot water. The thing was dry as a whistle when I started painting. Must have been later that night the oil fairy came around and decided to do some lubrication...

            Since I'm going to do another (thin) coat of semigloss I'll take the de-greasing (including scrubbing) to the next level and if anything comes off then it might be best to start over.

            And yeah, I know some might think I'm being neurotic but this is an Anti Pirate gun ok...
            (I'm still saving part for the Somali style.)

            I'm learning as I go.
            Thanks for all the feedback and advice.
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            • #7
              bigbob76
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 3955

              Originally posted by antix2
              It's magic grease! I was at it for an hours I think spending a whole bottle of Magic Green and tons of super hot water. The thing was dry as a whistle when I started painting. Must have been later that night the oil fairy came around and decided to do some lubrication...

              Since I'm going to do another (thin) coat of semigloss I'll take the de-greasing (including scrubbing) to the next level and if anything comes off then it might be best to start over.

              And yeah, I know some might think I'm being neurotic but this is an Anti Pirate gun ok...
              (I'm still saving part for the Somali style.)

              I'm learning as I go.
              Thanks for all the feedback and advice.
              You are doing great! Keep up the good work.I think some guys even boil the receiver before Parkerizing. I've had the same thing happen to me that happened to you. The oil attacks out of seemingly nowhere. I have a barreled receiver from a Polish underfolder that is doing it right now. Usually I Parkerize or paint right after sandblasting but that wasn't possible this time. It is frigging bleeding oil/grease like it is menstruating.
              If you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein

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