Saiga barrel threading, did not work...

[WiKDMoNKY]

So I got my kit from Dinzag and my brother and I gave it a shot today. It did not go as planned. After watcing videos and reading detailed instruction, all the threader did was thin out the barrel and not make any threads. We followed all instructions to a T and no go. I removed the shrouding with a pipe cutter, that was the easy part.

I guess there is not much I can do at this point, except maybe replace the barrel. It is not damaged functionally, but it looks like ****.

Anyways, here is a pic... (the silver wear marks on the shrouding is from the pip cutter)



Is there anything I can do to fix this? Where can I get a new barrel, if necessary?

Thanks in advance!!!

[4thSBCT]

your still good to go

you still have plenty of meat on the bone just cut the shroud back a little more and try to thread it again and try to find some scrap metal to practice threading on..

[zfields]

looks like its adjusted WAY to tight.

[1spartan]

I can't tell what the hell your threader is doing. I can't see any semblance of threads on the barrel.

[WiKDMoNKY]

I think it cut the barrel too thing to ever get threads on the end. Are you sure its still workable?

your still good to go

you still have plenty of meat on the bone just cut the shroud back a little more and try to thread it again and try to find some scrap metal to practice threading on..

In the video I watched, it said to make sure the die screw was loose and I did.

looks like its adjusted WAY to tight.

Me neither, it never seemed to start threading.

I can't tell what the hell your threader is doing. I can't see any semblance of threads on the barrel.

My brother has threaded plenty of things (not a gun barrel) and he said he had never seen that happen before. Can I buy a new Saiga barrel?

[7,62x39]

If you decide to sell your barrel, send me a pm

[1spartan]

If your brother has threaded things before, then threading the barrel is no different. Don't psych yourself out just because it's a rifle. I don't know what you meant by loosening the set screw on the dye?

[1spartan]

Pic of the dye you're using please.

[1spartan]

I looked at Dinzag Arms and the dye looks like a standard split dye. there is usually a set screw for split on the dye itself. So I get the previous comment on the dye now. It does look like you can still salvage the barrel if you can get the dye to CUT threads on the barrel. The dye should bite and start cutting threads right away.

[SJgunguy24]

Your barrel is fine, most Saiga's are 3/8 strong anyway. At the worst you'll need to pin and weld the muzzle device to get it past 16".
Looks to me like somebody went the the wrong direction or didn't leave enough room in the die to get 2-3 full threads. You need to lock T.A.T. down with whatever muzzle device you plan to use. I would say send it to the shop but I'm pretty backed up at the moment.

[Roccobro]

Are you using the muzzle cutter device and then cutting threads, or did you do that smooth a finish just from twisting the die over and over again?

If it was just pulled threads, it was because you didn't remove the TAT after making 3-4 threads in. But nothing in that pic has a resemblance of threads at all.

I threaded 5 barrels on Saturday with Dinzags stuff. We need to know what your using if you want more help.

Justin

[vandal]

Just replace the front sight with a AK74 front sight with 24mm threads. Will cover the screwup.

[Sky_DiveR]

As mentioned above, it looks like you didn't back off the TAT when you got acouple of threads cut. I think you would have enough to try it again but back off the TAT after acouple of threads are cut into the barrel so you don't rip out the threads again. Don't forget to stop threading when the die bottoms out or you will be ripping the threads out again.

Just my $0.02

Btw, Don't forget to turn left (counter-clockwise) not right to cut threads.

[WiKDMoNKY]

Is it possible for a muzzle brake to fit, even if it is possible to get the threads going? Could I make this work by replacing my FSB with a Bulgarian threaded FSB? Would it just cover up the end of the barrel or does it need to be tight around the old shrouding?

Is there anyone in the OC area think they can help me with this? I don't feel comfortable trying anything more on my own. I would gladly pay for any help.

Thanks in advance!!!



I did make sure not to bottom out the TAT. In fact just to be sure I always kept it a few threads gap between the barrel and the TAT. It's like it didn't want to thread, it seemed to want to just thin out the barrel.

As mentioned above, it looks like you didn't back off the TAT when you got acouple of threads cut. I think you would have enough to try it again but back off the TAT after acouple of threads are cut into the barrel so you don't rip out the threads again. Don't forget to stop threading when the die bottoms out or you will be ripping the threads out again.

Just my $0.02

Btw, Don't forget to turn left (counter-clockwise) not right to cut threads.

[SJgunguy24]

Is it possible for a muzzle brake to fit, even if it is possible to get the threads going? Could I make this work by replacing my FSB with a Bulgarian threaded FSB? Would it just cover up the end of the barrel or does it need to be tight around the old shrouding?

Is there anyone in the OC area think they can help me with this? I don't feel comfortable trying anything more on my own. I would gladly pay for any help.

Thanks in advance!!!



I did make sure not to bottom out the TAT. In fact just to be sure I always kept it a few threads gap between the barrel and the TAT. It's like it didn't want to thread, it seemed to want to just thin out the barrel.

Did you measure before you.started threading? A few thousands of an inch can make a world of difference when machining.