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  • Robidouxs
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1684

    Test fire almost turned into slamfire!! See post #7

    I finally have some time to go to the range so it is now time to test fire the past two ak's that I have built. Both passed headspacing fine and did no close on a no-go gauge.

    When test firing is there anything special I should do to mitigate my chances of injuring myself if the rifle goes kaboom? The Dr. on Calguns indicated that I should hold the rifle away from myself...
    Last edited by Robidouxs; 03-03-2011, 8:14 PM.
    Life is like having a map with precise directions and exact stops, you find out that your directions and stops change as you progress further down your original map.
  • #2
    pepsi2451
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 1630

    Originally posted by Robidouxs
    The Dr. on Calguns indicated that I should hold the rifle away from myself...
    Thats what I did, I even turned my head other way. Everything should be fine though.

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    • #3
      nicoroshi
      www.Buildyourownak.info
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2009
      • 3696

      I used to worry about builds I have done, and even took them into the woods with a rifle rest, and a string tied to the trigger. Hid behind a large tree, and pulled the string.
      Never had one 'kaboom' doing it that way, and after I got a no-go gauge I gave up on doing things that way.
      (For a laugh here's the set up of the way I used to test fire)


      If the build is built sturdy, and head space is correct I just go, and fire them.
      I do however only load one round for first fire. Then 3 rounds, and finally (when it's clear that cycle, and FCG are functioning fine) 10 rounds.

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      • #4
        buuddha
        Member
        CGN Contributor
        • Sep 2010
        • 465

        Originally posted by nicoroshi
        I used to worry about builds I have done, and even took them into the woods with a rifle rest, and a string tied to the trigger. Hid behind a large tree, and pulled the string.
        Never had one 'kaboom' doing it that way, and after I got a no-go gauge I gave up on doing things that way.
        (For a laugh here's the set up of the way I used to test fire)


        If the build is built sturdy, and head space is correct I just go, and fire them.
        I do however only load one round for first fire. Then 3 rounds, and finally (when it's clear that cycle, and FCG are functioning fine) 10 rounds.
        The key to this setup's success is the finely placed rock. Note the attention to detail...
        "In honor of the strife of those who've died, in generations before for your blood stained glory..."

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        • #5
          NeoWeird
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 3342

          Just shoot it sideways the way gangsters do - that way, if there is a kaboom, it blows out the ejection port harmlessly into the ground instead of the face of other passengers in the car. It's called range courtesy and everyone should practice it.
          quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. - Lucius Annaeus
          a sword never kills anybody; it's a tool in the killer's hand.

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          • #6
            Q
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2006
            • 6668

            Test fired mine from the hip. First couple rounds are scary.
            2024 New Year?s resolution will be no posting..

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            • #7
              Robidouxs
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 1684

              Haha. Test firing went okay. The rangemaster was not happy with me test firing by holding the gun away from myself. No kabooms. First AK went without any problems. The second one...had issues.

              I almost had a slamfire AK. I noticed this after inserting starting the first 10 round magazine (this was after initial test firing was done). Bang...Bang..Misfire..Misfire..Misfire..Misfire. I took these four misfired rounds and examined then, they looked just fine. I proceeded to insert these rounds into an SKS to verify that the primers were bad (no indeed were on the primers) and they fired off fine. I then took the bot out and noticed that my firing pin was frozen in place. It was partially protruding into the bolt, but not enough to consistently hit the primer. I took apart the bolt and fixed the firing pin issue. I am test firing the problem rifle again to verify that all problems are taken care of.
              Last edited by Robidouxs; 03-03-2011, 8:16 PM.
              Life is like having a map with precise directions and exact stops, you find out that your directions and stops change as you progress further down your original map.

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              • #8
                nicoroshi
                www.Buildyourownak.info
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2009
                • 3696

                Hmmm.
                Firing pin should be free floating, and will put an indent on primers when just chambered, and cycled out.
                Did you take that bolt apart while building, and clean the cosmo out of it before test firing?
                Did you shake the bolt to ensure the firing pin was free floating before installing it into the carrier?
                What was holding the firing pin from free floating?

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                • #9
                  Robidouxs
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1684

                  Did you take that bolt apart while building, and clean the cosmo out of it before test firing?
                  Yes, weeks ago.

                  Did you shake the bolt to ensure the firing pin was free floating before installing it into the carrier?

                  Yes, weeks ago.

                  What was holding the firing pin from free floating?

                  When I took it apart there was something that was near where the crosspin and firing pin contact. It definitely was not cosmoline. It seemed like it was fiberlike.
                  Last edited by Robidouxs; 03-03-2011, 8:54 PM.
                  Life is like having a map with precise directions and exact stops, you find out that your directions and stops change as you progress further down your original map.

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                  • #10
                    ElectronWrangler
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 297

                    Possibly a piece of rag, paper towel, or qtip from cleaning the bolt?
                    EW

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                    • #11
                      Robidouxs
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1684

                      Originally posted by ElectronWrangler
                      Possibly a piece of rag, paper towel, or qtip from cleaning the bolt?
                      I really think that is what it was.
                      Life is like having a map with precise directions and exact stops, you find out that your directions and stops change as you progress further down your original map.

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                      • #12
                        TURBOELKY
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1930

                        Man oh man. The advice I want to give you, can only be given by Dr. Elky. I'll leave it at that....
                        Last edited by TURBOELKY; 03-03-2011, 10:29 PM.
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                        • #13
                          cannon
                          In Memoriam
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 8589

                          Originally posted by NeoWeird
                          Just shoot it sideways the way gangsters do - that way, if there is a kaboom, it blows out the ejection port harmlessly into the ground instead of the face of other passengers in the car. It's called range courtesy and everyone should practice it.
                          LMAO
                          ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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                          • #14
                            Ryan in SD
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 1966

                            I always hold the gun forward for the first round, then switch it to rock and roll!!! hah, just kiddin

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                            • #15
                              Shady
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 3413

                              Originally posted by NeoWeird
                              Just shoot it sideways the way gangsters do - that way, if there is a kaboom, it blows out the ejection port harmlessly into the ground instead of the face of other passengers in the car. It's called range courtesy and everyone should practice it.

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