You guys are a lot smarter than I since you understand the whole cnc, numbers, and programming.
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Milling an AR lower from solid, got G-code?
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Once you get into it, it's not that hard to understand how to create simple tool paths. The trick is fixturing, as in how to hold the parts during each operation. There is artistry in doing that well. Speeds (cutter or work rpm)and feeds (how fast the tool moves across the work), most efficient cutter to use, how much material to remove each path, those are also handy to know.
CNC is so cool. I started a long time ago in a manual shop, still had some machines driven by leather belts.
There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.
It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?Comment
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Don't bother with it. Too much work. Unless you have a lot of time to figure out how to hold your part. And how come everybody calls it g code when they are using cad/cam? I call it cam posts. When it is g code you actually write it out line by line. I don't think most people are writing code line by line on notepad.Four wheels move your body, two wheels move your soul.Comment
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CAM systems generate machine specific g-code.Don't bother with it. Too much work. Unless you have a lot of time to figure out how to hold your part. And how come everybody calls it g code when they are using cad/cam? I call it cam posts. When it is g code you actually write it out line by line. I don't think most people are writing code line by line on notepad.
Personally, I wouldn't ask for g-code, rather I'd ask for the CAD model and generate my own code to be sure it works on the machine I'll be using. While g-code is a standard, it's not really standard. Different controllers sometimes use different codes for the same operations or the same code may do different things. Also, some machines use I and J offsets for circular interpolation and some use a radius value. Even the I and J can be used differently. You'd also want to know whether the g-code is in absolute, incremental or both. Are there subprograms in the code? Fanuc Custom Macros? Heidenhain Q parameter?
Actually, writing the g-code without a CAM system wouldn't be too difficult. After all, that's what we did before there were CAM systems!
grym
Lay me dun in the caul caul grun.....
caput ferrum equus ego vehoComment
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I was talking about g&m code but was saying mastercam is so much easier... I rather use mastercam and draw my part with lines then do this again... All this code is for a bottom jaw that looks like a tombstone for a can crusher
THIS IS G&M code for whoever doesn't know. It's also why you don't wanna sit there and program any gun parts by hand. This part is a simple 3x4" park or something i dont remember I just pulled out a random one I finished. Programed for a HAAS and run on vericut
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Mastercam generates g-code. I think you know that, but there does seem to be some confusion here. CAM systems employ a graphical user interface, allowing the operator to easily select features on which to apply tool path, then generate (post-process) that tool path in controller specific g-code. That's what's sent to the machine.... g-code.
We use:
AlphaCam
SurfCam (my favorite)
Gibbs
Esprit
Hypermill (the very best tool paths if you ask me)
CamWorks
SolidCam
Some Flow waterjet software I've never used
Fanuc Custom Macro B
and plain old, hand generated g-code
Gives a lot of options to get the job done. It's all good.grym
Lay me dun in the caul caul grun.....
caput ferrum equus ego vehoComment
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yeah I know it does =D. I was stating what I did because OP wanted gcode and I was pointing out to those who don't know CNC that doing that many operations for a lower isn't worth it to do just one. OP said if no one wanted to give up gcode that solidworks or mastercam is fine and I was saying mastercam is so much easier then writting g&m code.Mastercam generates g-code. I think you know that, but there does seem to be some confusion here. CAM systems employ a graphical user interface, allowing the operator to easily select features on which to apply tool path, then generate (post-process) that tool path in controller specific g-code. That's what's sent to the machine.... g-code.
We use:
AlphaCam
SurfCam (my favorite)
Gibbs
Esprit
Hypermill (the very best tool paths if you ask me)
CamWorks
SolidCam
Some Flow waterjet software I've never used
Fanuc Custom Macro B
and plain old, hand generated g-code
Gives a lot of options to get the job done. It's all good.
I'm pretty rusty now a days and i'm sure advice is better given from someone else. I probably wouldn't even be able to get my toolpathing to work correctly at the moment. But I am HAAS certified if anyone thinks im bsingComment
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**** grymster. That's a lot of cad/cam software. Our shop runs mastercam, surfcam, and geopath. When I started learning about writing g code by hand, the I and j values always effed me up. I wouldn't know if I had to use positive or negative values. I thought I was gonna go crazy. Thank god for cad/cam and igs files.Four wheels move your body, two wheels move your soul.Comment
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We don't use the Gibbs, CamWorks or SolidCam much, but every now and then they're handy.**** grymster. That's a lot of cad/cam software. Our shop runs mastercam, surfcam, and geopath. When I started learning about writing g code by hand, the I and j values always effed me up. I wouldn't know if I had to use positive or negative values. I thought I was gonna go crazy. Thank god for cad/cam and igs files.
I used to have contests with other guys. See who could program bolt circles or O-ring grooves or other features faster; me at the controller with my HP15-C, or them using a CAM system. I won most of those.
.... of course, with more complex geometry, you really need CAM. It's all fun stuff. Just wish I got to do it still.
grym
Lay me dun in the caul caul grun.....
caput ferrum equus ego vehoComment
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Sitting at my desk right now programming a thirty two hour long milling operation for a mold. If I posted the code it would shut the forum down.
It sounds like everyone in here knows a bit about machining/programming but some sound slightly confused.
G-Code =G-Code whether written via CAM Software or punched into the control by hand.
If I'm not mistaken, Justin over at CNCGuns even posted his CAM files... I remember finding code, setup sheets and pretty sure the CAM files. There is a step by step showing of how he did his in the Projects section of his site. Definitely worth a look.Comment
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All this talk of writing out g-code for milling a lower from scratch makes me laugh. I am better than most at cartesian coordinates, and I can generate/read g-code, there is no way I would even think about trying to generate a 3d tool path for a lower. Could it be done, yes but it is not practical. This is my code for a 90's Fadal JUST FOR THE FCG. It's pretty long for how simple the geometry is but I was not especially concerned with cycle time or program size because I was only doing 2(Cycle time was about 20 minutes). Calculating all of the 3d points would take a team of skilled guys a long time.
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