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  • freonr22
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 12945

    flash hider to muzzle brake??

    Can you take a yhm phantom, weld a washer on the end to make a muzzle brake to = featureless?

    I have access to tig, machine shop and enough knowledge to make it non perfect. Legally could I do this on my 14.5" pinned welded barrel ( which I installed) or is it better to remove weld and add a muzzle brake?? I was under the impression the big difference is in the bore of the outlet, not the slots etc.

    thank you for your time
    Last edited by freonr22; 08-17-2010, 1:48 AM.
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    Originally posted by dantodd
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    Originally posted by bwiese
    They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
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  • #2
    motorhead
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 3409

    probably not. there isn't really a clear definition of f/h vs brake. one major criteria is what it's advertised as.
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    • #3
      sniper4usmc
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 1984

      The Muzzle Brake•A muzzle brake is a device attached to the end of a rifle barrel (or cannon, or pistol etc.) in which small cuts or slots are contained. The main purpose of these openings is to reduce recoil and muzzle rise by diverting the gases expelled out of the end of the barrel during firing. The propellant gases that normally would exit the end of the barrel are diverted out of the side and top holes, therefore reducing the forces that cause recoil via backward and upward thrust.
      The Flash Hider•Also known as a flash suppressor, the flash hider is a device attached to the end of a barrel that is used to hide the flash signature of the burning gases expelled out of the barrel during firing. This is especially effective when firing at night or in dim light. The flash-suppressor helps a soldier firing at night escape detection by the enemy.The basic hider designs are described as a prong, a cone or a birdcage.
      Differences•The designs and purposes of each are entirely different. A muzzle brake is very useful when dampening of recoil is needed such as when firing an extremely powerful round. It finds its niche where powerful rounds are needed, such as in long-distance target matches and in the hunting fields. It would be a bad choice to use at night because it has a tremendous muzzle blast and shoots out bright burning gases in every direction.

      The flash hider reduces the flame that results when a round is fired. The military uses this for obvious reasons. It is also used by law-enforcement for certain purposes.The flash suppressor is highly desirable to a sniper, as it is difficult for the enemy to determine his position.
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      • #4
        mif_slim
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2008
        • 10089

        Why go thru the trouble when you can just buy a stag arm comp for 17 bucks?
        Originally posted by Gottmituns
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        • #5
          freonr22
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2008
          • 12945

          Originally posted by mif_slim
          Why go thru the trouble when you can just buy a stag arm comp for 17 bucks?
          its already pinned and welded. but maybe its not a big deal to remove
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          Originally posted by dantodd
          We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
          Originally posted by bwiese
          They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
          Originally posted by louisianagirl
          Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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          • #6
            mif_slim
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2008
            • 10089

            Originally posted by freonr22
            its already pinned and welded. but maybe its not a big deal to remove
            ooohh, ouch. That sucks. Mines was supposedly "pinned/weld" but it came off during shooting so I was lucky.

            I dont know how you would get a welded flash off. Maybe grind enough to pass the weld so the pin will come out then unscrew?
            Originally posted by Gottmituns
            It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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            • #7
              freonr22
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2008
              • 12945

              i guess that is the answer! thanks all
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              Originally posted by dantodd
              We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
              Originally posted by bwiese
              They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
              Originally posted by louisianagirl
              Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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              • #8
                stormy_clothing
                Banned
                • Dec 2008
                • 2809

                cut it off re thread use a longer 308 brake

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                • #9
                  freonr22
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 12945

                  it would be sooo much easier to take a washer and make this


                  into this



                  so I can go featureless and use my 30 rounders
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                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                  Originally posted by louisianagirl
                  Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                  • #10
                    motorhead
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3409

                    notice in your pix, there IS a noticable difference in the slots. after all the rework and refinishing afterward, you would probably be better removing/replacing. if it's blind pinned you'll need to grind off the weld and drill out the pin. if welded you'll need to grind off the weld(s).
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