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  • kdm
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 611

    Building (assembling) a 1911...

    Been thinking of building my own 1911...buying a 100% frame, then slowly assembling from off-the-shelf parts.

    Easy in words, but I know there's lots of fitting involved. How difficult is this? I'm mechanically inclined and such, but haven't had any appreciable experience in gunsmithing.

    Is this something that can be done, given the correct book to follow?
  • #2
    Chief-7700
    Veteran Member
    • May 2008
    • 3382

    You can't import a bare 1911 frame into the nanny state of California. The best 1911 books are by Jerry Kuhnhausen you can get them at Brownells.

    XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
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    • #3
      eaglemike
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2008
      • 3916

      For your first build I'd suggest mil-spec parts kit. Then it's pretty much slam dunk and you can learn how. Then decide a piece at a time what to do next. Barrel fitting will end up a pain the first time or two. Fitting a high-ride beavertail will be interesting the first time. The best version (IMHO) requires a fair amount of time and skill. When/if you fit a thumb safety go slow, be sure you understand how it all works.
      all the best,
      Mike
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      • #4
        ojisan
        Agent 86
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2008
        • 11758

        ^ This.

        Death to the Roster.

        Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
        I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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        • #5
          TMC
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 2348

          Beyond the issue of getting a frame its not to difficult building a 1911. Guns are just little machines like any other, there's no vodoo involved. There's lots of info out there in books and on the web. For a couple jobs its easier with special tools but they are not critical to have. Quality sharp files are a must and you will need a few special files. If you take your time it will work out fine.
          where are my pistol mags?

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          • #6
            Chief-7700
            Veteran Member
            • May 2008
            • 3382

            Browse a HUGE selection of gun parts, gunsmithing tools, reloading equipment, ammunition, firearms, and more! Committed to 2A and the community since 1939.

            Link to Jerry's books.

            Lapping the slide to the frame and fitting the barrel hood, lugs is always fun. Along with fitting the thumb safety,barrel bushing,extractor and firing pin stop. Ok I forgot the ignition parts including hammer, sear, trigger and disco.
            Last edited by Chief-7700; 07-30-2010, 8:50 PM.

            XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
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            NRA Certified RSO
            "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"

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            • #7
              edwardm
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1939

              It's not that "hard" to do. I've fit slide stops, adjusted extractors and ejectors, fit barrels, bushings on 1911's more than a few times now.

              Look at it this way - nothing is necessarily hard about any of that. There is a set of data and a set of skills you need to acquire and master in order to do that. If it was hard, 3 people in the world could build 1911's. But that's not the case. It's going to be a question of 3 things:

              1. Time
              2. Dedication
              3. Asking lots of questions and making sure you understand the answers

              If you can give 100% to all 3, you'll be fine.

              Originally posted by kdm
              Been thinking of building my own 1911...buying a 100% frame, then slowly assembling from off-the-shelf parts.

              Easy in words, but I know there's lots of fitting involved. How difficult is this? I'm mechanically inclined and such, but haven't had any appreciable experience in gunsmithing.

              Is this something that can be done, given the correct book to follow?
              Last edited by edwardm; 07-31-2010, 12:09 AM.

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              • #8
                kdm
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 611

                Thanks, guys.

                Maybe this part belongs in the 2A forum...Chief-7700, wouldn't a bare frame be considered a non-gun? My understanding is, a non-gun is roster exempt.
                Last edited by kdm; 07-30-2010, 9:50 PM. Reason: Clarificatified.

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57092

                  Originally posted by kdm
                  Thanks, guys.

                  Maybe this part belongs in the 2A forum...Chief-7700, wouldn't a bare frame be considered a non-gun? My understanding is, a non-gun is roster exempt.
                  A bare frame is still a firearm.
                  Firearms have to transfer through dealers.
                  The frame has to dros as a handgun if you want to make a handgun with it.
                  Handguns have to be on the roster or somehow be exempt.
                  Last edited by ar15barrels; 07-30-2010, 10:00 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Chief-7700
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 3382

                    The following may help.
                    Browse a HUGE selection of gun parts, gunsmithing tools, reloading equipment, ammunition, firearms, and more! Committed to 2A and the community since 1939.

                    XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
                    IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
                    NRA Certified RSO
                    "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"

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                    • #11
                      navyretired 1
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 7

                      You might consider a 80% 1911 frame but some of the tools necessary are expensive (grip bushing taps, correct drills, reamers and such but 80% are non-guns so you can buy. Just web search for sources.
                      With Kuhnhausen's book go step by step and it's not that easy. Try to get forged or barstock parts as alot of the parts available are MIMS (metal in molds) or what used to be call sintered parts. MIM's are ok but won't take a mirror finish for top fitting.
                      80% frames have no serial numbers and don'thave to be DROSED to buy, come thru US Mail.

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                      • #12
                        sava6e
                        Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 289



                        just in case you like visuals

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                        • #13
                          motorhead
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 3409

                          the reciver/frame is the gun. all the rest is just metal.
                          sigpic Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc

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                          • #14
                            sarge1572
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1086

                            1911

                            I just finished one. A 100% frame (and like the others said, the FRAME is considered THE GUN, why? because it's the only part with a serial number I suppose and your 1911 will be registered as whatever brand frame you buy no matter HOW awesome your parts are) and found a box of parts that I made fit (yes those ARE all SS Colt Gold Cup parts!!). It shoots like a champ. I'm not a gun smith, just an armorer, and I may have just lucked out, but it was a very satisfying project. I did everything by hand. Took a little longer, but worth it.

                            If you have some skill, and a lot of patience you'll learn a LOT, and have a gun you'll keep a long time.

                            Someone else mentioned, the hardest part is finding a frame already in the peoples republik. You can't import it 'cause frames aren't on the approved list.

                            I think I posted a pic, at least I HOPE I did.

                            Good luck, and yes, you should do it.
                            Last edited by sarge1572; 12-24-2010, 9:28 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Roccobro
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 2907

                              The owner of my old LGS told me about a cop who DROS'd 10 bare Caspian frames with his exemption. I've been thinking of doing the same with all the Roster crap still around and Cal Gunners needing 1911's.

                              Justin
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                              Thanks,
                              Justin
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