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  • Brambo
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 26

    I need a edjumacation

    Were and what do I need to buy for a AK build? What's the best? I have a mini machine shop in my garage, mill, lathe, wire feed welder ect... What template stuff should I get?

    I know it's allot of questions.
  • #2
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57174

    Read the tacked threads above.

    Particularly this one:
    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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    • #3
      SJgunguy24
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2008
      • 14849

      Parts kit, reciever or AK builder flat. If you get a flat, you'll need a center support, lower rails, and a bending jig. You will also have to heat treat the axis pin holes for the fire control group. A 100% reciever negates all of this and IMO is the best route with a first build.
      You will also need 922r compliance parts, figure out what you would like to change using this guide.


      You'll need a mag lock if you want a pistol grip. You can make your own or buy one.
      What is your skill set?
      There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
      The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
      The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
      The others, well......they just never learn.

      "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
      Patrick Henry.

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57174

        Originally posted by SJgunguy24
        What is your skill set?
        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
        Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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        • #5
          Brambo
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 26

          I can pull it off I think. I have milled out plenty AR lowers and even welded a drive line on a 1953 m38A1 with a couple batteries, jumper cables, and a handful of nickles. Looks like I just found a excuse for some more tools. Only thing I need is that bending jig and a spot weld attachment for my welder. I think I'm gunna go to a build party just to learn. Maby I can trade one of you guys a fishing trip on the Delta for a class on how to do these.

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          • #6
            Sicarius
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2008
            • 2917

            You can host a build party and have people bring a bunch of their tools, jigs and such. Ak-builder.com makes great tools but if you were only planning on building 1(which never is the case) you are better off borrowing the tools. You will need a flat, center support and rivit kit that ak-builder sells and idealy a matching parts kit. You have to decide if you want a 47 or 74 patterned rifle too. Matching parts kit is important because you know that all the parts, headspace, barrel all fit and worked together at one time. As for what kit to get, that is up to you... Do your research! Romy kits tend to be considered one of the lower end parts kits out there but have not been abused and used. Yugo's are extremely stout(1.5mm receiver and rpk bulged trunnion) but their barrels lack chrome lining and with the combination of being used in a conflict, their barrels are typically pretty poor. Luckily green mountain makes yugo chrome lined barrels but that's an added expense. Every country has their own little tweak. Hungarians have a shorter gas tube and piston. You have to find out what suits your wants... You will also have to keep in mind that you are looking for a stamped and not a milled kit.
            Kevin

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            • #7
              SJgunguy24
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2008
              • 14849

              Originally posted by Brambo
              I can pull it off I think. I have milled out plenty AR lowers and even welded a drive line on a 1953 m38A1 with a couple batteries, jumper cables, and a handful of nickles. Looks like I just found a excuse for some more tools. Only thing I need is that bending jig and a spot weld attachment for my welder. I think I'm gunna go to a build party just to learn. Maby I can trade one of you guys a fishing trip on the Delta for a class on how to do these.

              If you have a MIG machine you really don't need to use a spot welder. If you only going to build 1 gun I would just hit a build party like you said. Makes no sense to drop 600$ for tooling to build 1 gun.
              What's your location? I might be able to give you a hand.
              There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
              The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
              The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
              The others, well......they just never learn.

              "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
              Patrick Henry.

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              • #8
                SJgunguy24
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2008
                • 14849

                Originally posted by ar15barrels




                There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                The others, well......they just never learn.

                "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                Patrick Henry.

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                • #9
                  HotRails
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 1491

                  There should be one this fall in Canyon Country. Depending on where you live, this would be well worth it. A couple very experienced builders usually show up who are more than willing to help.

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                  • #10
                    Brambo
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 26

                    I'm in orangevale near Sacramento. I'm sure I will go nutz and build more than a few. I built 19 AR's so you can expect the same level of over kill. I want to start with a standard one, then a dragnov style, and a adjustable stock.

                    I may just go buy my first one at a local shop to get started. I'm a little unclear on what is compatible with what. Parts ECT.....?

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                    • #11
                      arfan66
                      Senior Member
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 841

                      I agree with SJgunguy24, building an AK with a 100% receiver like NoDak's is probably the best way to build your first. I built mine on an Ohio Ordinance Works receiver. Check out this tutorial by Arizona Response systems: http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.co...k47build.shtml

                      I used their guide to build an AK pistol. Let me know if I can be of assistance...Good Luck!

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                      • #12
                        SJgunguy24
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2008
                        • 14849

                        Originally posted by Brambo
                        I'm in orangevale near Sacramento. I'm sure I will go nutz and build more than a few. I built 19 AR's so you can expect the same level of over kill. I want to start with a standard one, then a dragnov style, and a adjustable stock.

                        I may just go buy my first one at a local shop to get started. I'm a little unclear on what is compatible with what. Parts ECT.....?

                        OK, my advice to you. Buy a Saiga to start. Convert it. Not some el cheapo job, I mean cut the trigger guard and rivet the back end, reshape the front and weld it to the mag catch tower. Or get an AK style and rivet that in place. Weld up all of the holes that you don't need. Do the trigger work and make sure there isn't any hammer follow. This will give you a good working knowledge of the AK platform and you will have a good gun that you can look at if you get in a bind when building an AK later.
                        There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                        The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                        The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                        The others, well......they just never learn.

                        "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                        Patrick Henry.

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