Pillar Mounting With Epoxy... (and non-react agent)

[5hundo]

I have a few projects that I need to finish up before I can put my Ruger 77 .308 back together and I was hoping to get some advice.

I bought some Locktite clear epoxy in the self-mixing tube, in hopes that it would be a good material to use to secure the Callahan pillars that I bought to the stock. I'm sure it will work fine but I want this to be a quality job, so I figured I better ask first.

Also, I have been looking for something to use as a non-react agent to make sure that the metal doesn't get bonded to the pillar permanently but I can't seem to locate a specific product that is available. Is there something I can easily find somewhere like a hobby shop, or harware store that will keep me from permanently attaching my rifle to my stock?

Thanks for your help!!!

[phish]

Kiwi shoe polish, neutral color (tan). No need to use a different epoxy for the pillars as you would for the rest of the stock.

[uxo2]

For guns I like Brownells Acra-glass...
JB weld and such don't work so well.
Some marine epoxies work great.But I forgot their names.

There are specifice release agents too.
Or an alternate
Like carnuba wax.
Experiment with the wax and a piece of metal.

[BigRich]

GAP used Marinetex epoxy on the rifles he has built for me. Brownells sell a specific spray application release agent.

[5hundo]

For guns I like Brownells Acra-glass...
JB weld and such don't work so well.

When you say "and such", would this fall into that category:

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/products/detail.asp?catid=11&subid=49&plid=877

...because that's what I got.

[phish]

1 minute epoxy, don't even think about using that to bed the rest of the rifle, you'll be in for a major nightmare. Go down to Orchard Supply Hardware or Tap Plastics if there's one close to you and get Devcon Plastic Steel. That stuff is rated for 10.2 kpsi compressive strength. I don't think that Loctite epoxy is rated that high.

[uxo2]

When you say "and such", would this fall into that category:

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/products/detail.asp?catid=11&subid=49&plid=877

...because that's what I got.

I would avoid that stuff for what you want to do with it.

There is a reason Acra-glass has and continues to be used for firearms.
It works.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1038/Product/ACRAGLAS_GEL_reg_

And a ..
3 oz. Bottle Non-Flammable Release Agent
SKU #:081-007-004
Manufacturer:BROWNELLS
Retail Price:$5.99


I do recommend this product.

[5hundo]

Go down to Orchard Supply Hardware or Tap Plastics if there's one close to you and get Devcon Plastic Steel. That stuff is rated for 10.2 kpsi compressive strength. I don't think that Loctite epoxy is rated that high.

In fact, that is exactly what I was going to use for bedding. I've known a handful of people who have used Devcon products with great results.

I was going to use the 1 minute epoxy for only the pillars and affixing the ebony forend. Will it be okay for those purposes, or is it still a bad idea?

[5hundo]

Go down to Orchard Supply Hardware or Tap Plastics if there's one close to you and get Devcon Plastic Steel. That stuff is rated for 10.2 kpsi compressive strength.

Out of curiosity, is there any benefit to paying more money and using the Devcon Plastic Titanium, or the Devcon Aluminum putty?

The Titanium is about twice the cost but I'm not sure if it's any better of a product. I thought I'd ask...

[phish]

I don't see any compelling advantage of the Titanium epoxy, maybe the higher compressive strength, but rifle builders have been using plastic steel for a long time.

[5hundo]

I don't see any compelling advantage of the Titanium epoxy, maybe the higher compressive strength, but rifle builders have been using plastic steel for a long time.

Yeah, it's pretty expensive too... I was hessitant to get the titanium, unless there would be a serious advantage. I guess there's not, really...