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  • SkyHawk
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    • Sep 2012
    • 23507

    What are these screwdriver bits called?

    I saw these in a cheap Winchester gunsmith kit and want to get some in a few sizes. What would I be looking for?

    They are standard(ish) bits with very short tips, I think in smaller sizes they would be useful to bust loose some well-stuck screws.

    I watched a friend twist and break off a few bits recently trying to loosen some rusty screws on his duck hunting shotgun and when I saw these I thought of him

    The four I have drawn arrows towards are the ones I am specifically asking about.

    Last edited by SkyHawk; 07-17-2023, 6:56 PM.
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    G-forceJunkie
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    • Jul 2010
    • 6304

    Just a flathead, but a nice machined one to fit a screw slot exactly. Companys make them in a varity of diameters and blade width. Always use the tightest fitting one you can. Chapman is a well known brand: https://chapmanmfg.com/collections/individual-parts

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      SkyHawk
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      • Sep 2012
      • 23507

      Originally posted by G-forceJunkie
      Just a flathead, but a nice machined one to fit a screw slot exactly. Companys make them in a varity of diameters and blade width. Always use the tightest fitting one you can. Chapman is a well known brand: https://chapmanmfg.com/collections/individual-parts
      Thank you. Those look nice and maybe even a tad better than Wheeler, but I don't see anything like the four bits I pointed out in my pic.

      Also, I don't see a lot of variety there - Wheeler has way more slotted bit sizes to choose from and I already have every single one of them, but none like the four in that Winchester kit.

      It also looks like at least two of the four I noted in the Winchester kit have concave tips
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      • #4
        Jeepergeo
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        • Feb 2012
        • 3506

        Magna-Tip brand is the way to go. Brownells carries nice sets and come with the Brownell warranty. Buy once, cry once.
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        • #5
          pacrat
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          • May 2014
          • 10280

          SH said;

          It also looks like at least two of the four I noted in the Winchester kit have concave tips
          I believe the perceived concave appearance is a visual illusion. Utilizing further machining step, just to make a weaker more likely to snap tool. Just does not make sense.

          I would strongly suggest caveat emptor for the shown set. Or any other likely [hecho in china] hand tools.

          Hard to beat good ole American Steel.

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          • #6
            IronsightsRifleman
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            • Jun 2020
            • 895

            Maybe anti tamper bits of some kind for heads like this.

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            • #7
              SonofWWIIDI
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              • Nov 2011
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              Does the tip of a flathead really need a taper starting an inch (or more) from the tip?



              That?s all I got.

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              • #8
                divingin
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                • Jul 2015
                • 2522

                The hollow-ground tips the OP shows are to lessen the risk of the tip levering itself out of the slot and mangling the screw in the process. I don't know if it helps or not, but it does seem to be pretty standard in gunsmithing and other high-end repair work. AFAIK, they are not specifically intended for the one-way security screws.

                The Chapman bits are this style hollow-ground flat head, and are fairly inexpensive if bought individually ($3 - $5 a piece as I recall.) I'm sure others make them as well.

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                • #9
                  BrassCase
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                  • Dec 2011
                  • 3182

                  Originally posted by SonofWWIIDI
                  Does the tip of a flathead really need a taper starting an inch (or more) from the tip?



                  That?s all I got.

                  If you don't like that profile then buy a screwdriver with a "cabinet tip" which has shank without flair. These usually work better for electricians.
                  I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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                  • #10
                    bergmen
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 2488

                    Originally posted by G-forceJunkie
                    Just a flathead...
                    It is a flat blade, not a flat head. That is the term for a particular type of screw that requires counter sinking.

                    Dan

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                    • #11
                      foxtrotuniformlima
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                      • Nov 2008
                      • 3454

                      Originally posted by SkyHawk
                      I saw these in a cheap Winchester gunsmith kit and want to get some in a few sizes. What would I be looking for?

                      They are standard(ish) bits with very short tips, I think in smaller sizes they would be useful to bust loose some well-stuck screws.

                      I watched a friend twist and break off a few bits recently trying to loosen some rusty screws on his duck hunting shotgun and when I saw these I thought of him

                      The four I have drawn arrows towards are the ones I am specifically asking about.

                      Hollow Ground is what they are called. Chapman makes some nice ones. I think the real benefit is the wide availabity in sizes - you can get the best fit.

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                      • #12
                        ivanimal
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                        • Sep 2002
                        • 14357

                        Flat ground

                        I buy the Wheeler brand
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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
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                          • Jan 2006
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                          Originally posted by SonofWWIIDI
                          Does the tip of a flathead really need a taper starting an inch (or more) from the tip?



                          That?s all I got.

                          The tips are like that because they are forged from the material that the screwdriver shaft is made from.
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                          • #14
                            kcstott
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                            • Nov 2011
                            • 11796

                            Originally posted by SonofWWIIDI
                            Does the tip of a flathead really need a taper starting an inch (or more) from the tip?



                            That?s all I got.

                            if the tapper is not long enough how are you supposed to use it for a pry bar??

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