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  • #16
    bruce381
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 2450

    Originally posted by ar15barrels
    CA mineral spirits is nowhere as effective as non-CA mineral spirits.
    I believe that CA mineral spirits is water based now.
    Same for the paint thinner.

    I buy my mineral spirits and paint thinners out of state now.
    No you are partially wrong "mineral spirits" is same as always has been
    BUT some other versions thinners have fazed out, it works fine but yes some of the hotter ones are not available.

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    • #17
      bruce381
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 2450

      "After that, paint thinners and solvents all had to go to a low VOC formula which precludes the use of all the old style solvents like mineral or white spirits that were in all the various thinners and paints before 2013."

      In finished products yes like paints and coatings but still avabible in quarts gallon ans pails go to home depot look at paint Isle.

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      • #18
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57098

        Originally posted by bruce381
        "After that, paint thinners and solvents all had to go to a low VOC formula which precludes the use of all the old style solvents like mineral or white spirits that were in all the various thinners and paints before 2013."

        In finished products yes like paints and coatings but still avabible in quarts gallon ans pails go to home depot look at paint Isle.
        I think maybe your area has different rules or understandings of the rules than my area as there are no more real mineral spirits in my area.
        There are only the "low odor" recipes and those MSDS do not list the same contents as the old high voc versions.


        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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        • #19
          bruce381
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2450

          believe what you want i'm in the business so have nice day

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          • #20
            smoothy8500
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3846

            Well, regardless of what "formulation" they call paint thinner, kerosene, or mineral spirits, at least they do some cleaning of old grease....

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            • #21
              Bullwinkle
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 565

              Everything suggested thus far works well. If you want something less harsh and biodegradable that still does the job, go to Home Depot and pick up a gallon of Simple Green Pro HD (less than $15). Mix 1:3 (one part Pro HD, 3 parts water).

              Immerse the parts in the solution (safe for wood & plastic, too, though I usually use other products for those). Scrub where necessary. Then immerse in plain water to rinse.

              Dry what you can with paper towels, (clean) shop towels, Q-tips, or whatever. Then heat-dry the metal parts. I use my BBQ grill (ever since my wife caught me using the kitchen oven and said "no more"). Just place the metal parts on a (clean/degreased) baking sheet and let them sit in a 250-degree (minimum) grill with the lid closed for about 10-15 minutes to let any residual water boil away.

              Heating also has the advantage of opening the pores in the metal... so when you're done oven drying, immediately spray with Bullfrog Lubricant With Rust Blocker II (or similar product). Make sure you spray all sides. Use Q-tips or pipe cleaners or whatever to spread the lubricant into tight areas. Warning: Parts are hot.

              Let the lubricant soak in while the parts cool. Wipe off any residual and reassemble.

              This is how I clean my guns whenever I strip them down to the bare frame, including a 70-year-old rifle that was bought used, and it works great (IMO).
              John

              Factory Certified Sig Sauer Armorer
              P.O.S.T. Certified Armorer: 1911 pistols, AR-15/M16/M4 weapon systems, Glock handguns, Remington 870 shotgun, Sig Sauer handguns.
              Certified Sig Sauer P320 Armorer

              Let's Go Brandon

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              • #22
                67Cuda
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 1712

                I hear elbow grease work pretty good.
                Originally posted by ivanimal
                People that call other member stupid get time off.
                So much for being honest.

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                • #23
                  DArBad
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 3002

                  Originally posted by Bullwinkle
                  Everything suggested thus far works well. If you want something less harsh and biodegradable that still does the job, go to Home Depot and pick up a gallon of Simple Green Pro HD (less than $15). Mix 1:3 (one part Pro HD, 3 parts water).

                  Immerse the parts in the solution (safe for wood & plastic, too, though I usually use other products for those). Scrub where necessary. Then immerse in plain water to rinse.

                  Dry what you can with paper towels, (clean) shop towels, Q-tips, or whatever. Then heat-dry the metal parts. I use my BBQ grill (ever since my wife caught me using the kitchen oven and said "no more"). Just place the metal parts on a (clean/degreased) baking sheet and let them sit in a 250-degree (minimum) grill with the lid closed for about 10-15 minutes to let any residual water boil away.

                  Heating also has the advantage of opening the pores in the metal... so when you're done oven drying, immediately spray with Bullfrog Lubricant With Rust Blocker II (or similar product). Make sure you spray all sides. Use Q-tips or pipe cleaners or whatever to spread the lubricant into tight areas. Warning: Parts are hot.

                  Let the lubricant soak in while the parts cool. Wipe off any residual and reassemble.

                  This is how I clean my guns whenever I strip them down to the bare frame, including a 70-year-old rifle that was bought used, and it works great (IMO).
                  Simple Green, I knew that, but had forgotten and used nothing but Eds Red and elbow grease until inertia set in.

                  Thanks for reminding this old geezer.

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                  • #24
                    Wrangler John
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1799

                    Cleaner

                    Back when I worked for a living I used:

                    Berryman? B-12 Chemtool? Carburetor, Choke & Throttle Body Cleaner [VOC compliant in all 50 states]

                    At work I used it to remove the rolling mill grease prior to welding, It would cut any grease and evaporated quickly leaving a dry clean surface. Also used it on firearms, reloading dies, and anything shipped with preservative grease. Just don't use it on wood, plastic or that paint finish on some metal parts - a Ruger 10-22 receiver will need repainting.

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                    • #25
                      compulsivegunbuyer
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 2570

                      Originally posted by bruce381
                      believe what you want i'm in the business so have nice day
                      If you were in the business, then you would know that California is broken up into a multitude of air quality management districts, and that it depends where you are, as to what is available.

                      Last edited by compulsivegunbuyer; 09-28-2023, 10:09 AM.

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                      • #26
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57098

                        Originally posted by compulsivegunbuyer
                        If you were in the business, then you would know that California is broken up into a multitude of air quality management districts, and that it depends where you are, as to what is available.
                        The VOC map is actually better here as it shows that some areas don't have VOC limits other than the state's limits and the guy might live/work in one of those areas.

                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                        • #27
                          sofbak
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2628

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          The VOC map is actually better here as it shows that some areas don't have VOC limits other than the state's limits and the guy might live/work in one of those areas.

                          Your map is WORTHLESS without a legend that indicates what each color represents.....

                          C'mon almighty randall, are you slipping???
                          Tire kickers gonna kick,
                          Nose pickers gonna pick
                          I and others know the real

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                          • #28
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57098

                            Originally posted by sofbak
                            Your map is WORTHLESS without a legend that indicates what each color represents.....

                            C'mon almighty randall, are you slipping???
                            The names on the colored zones are the names OF the air zones.

                            The importance is that there are many un-named zones which do not have specific VOC limits so therefore follow state guidelines.
                            The smaller lines within a zone are county lines.
                            Some zones span multiple counties while other zones are a single county.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • #29
                              newbie1234
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 3118

                              I clean everything on the gun with Hoppe-9.

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                              • #30
                                Forestgnome
                                Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 213

                                I find WD-40 works surprisingly well at dissolving old grease. Great for washing out bearings with hardened grease.
                                California Redneck

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