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  • SixPence
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    • Jul 2022
    • 18

    Help building custom tungsten buffer weights for Maxim CQB

    I have a home built AR9 built on a CMMG RDB carrier kit, paired with a Maxim CQB stock which came with a standard weight buffer. I also purchased a Maxim H1 buffer to try out. I have been playing around with the buffer weights and have wanted to try a heavier H2 or H3 buffer for the type of ammo I want to use.

    I would like to not buy a whole new buffer kit at about $100 each, so I reached out to Maxim Defense requesting if I could buy the separate weights. As you may know, the Maxim CQB uses a proprietary shorty buffer:

    Milspec buffer weight diameter: 0.55in
    Maxim buffer weight Diameter: 0.625in (5/8in)





    Well Maxim returned my email simply stating they only sell the weights as a kit. So you have to spend almost $100 for a whole kit instead of a simple tungsten weight.

    So here is what I would like to do, I would like to make custom weights for the Maxim CQB stock and brace for a lower cost than $100 each. I can buy 5/8in tungsten and steel stock for a nominal cost. I need to find an effective way to repeatedly cut these at the same length.



    Here are the measurements I have so far:

    CQB weights diameter: 0.625in (5/8in)
    CQB weights overall length: 24mm (23.75mm on the H1)

    CQB rubber pad: 1.6mm

    CQB H1 tungsten weight length: 8.6mm (0.34in)
    CQB H1 steel weight length: 13.5mm (0.532in)

    I will need to get a scale with a proper range to estimate mass to cylinder size, as my reloading scale is too low a range. According to my estimates of mass per material:

    304 stainless steel: 7.93g/cm3
    Tungsten: 19.3g/cm3
    Last edited by SixPence; 11-14-2022, 10:20 AM.
  • #2
    kcstott
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 11796

    You're going to find out it would be far cheaper to buy the kit.

    Any shop that has the knowledge and skill to cut tungsten is going to want a few hour minimum.

    Also your math is wrong. it's 9.168 grams not Kg
    Last edited by kcstott; 11-12-2022, 7:41 PM.

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    • #3
      SixPence
      Banned
      • Jul 2022
      • 18

      Originally posted by kcstott
      You're going to find out it would be far cheaper to buy the kit.

      Any shop that has the knowledge and skill to cut tungsten is going to want a few hour minimum.
      What can be done with a 6in abrasive wheel? If this can be done consistently, I would be looking to sell the extras I am able to make.

      I already have one of these mini saws.
      Harbor Freight buys their top quality tools from the same factories that supply our competitors. We cut out the middleman and pass the savings to you!

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      • #4
        kcstott
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        • Nov 2011
        • 11796

        Originally posted by SixPence
        What can be done with a 6in abrasive wheel? If this can be done consistently, I would be looking to sell the extras I am able to make.

        I already have one of these mini saws.
        https://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-5...saw-61204.html
        Again, A shop with the skills and knowledge of cutting tungsten is not going to be cheap. You go ahead and give that little saw a try and the wheel will be gone before you can make a sizable nick in the rod. Tungsten is extremely dense and difficult to cut. it usually requires diamond abrasives or edm. This depends on the alloy you are trying to use, Pure tungsten is brittle so is tungsten carbide. Copper tungsten might be a better choice but it's not cheap.
        Save yourself the frustration and just buy their kit.

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        • #5
          kcstott
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2011
          • 11796

          you realize you could buy a box of TSS shotgun shells cut them apart and fill your buffer with it. that would be cheaper still then their kit or you trying to make weights.

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
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            • Jan 2006
            • 57122

            Originally posted by SixPence
            I have a home built AR9 built on a CMMG RDB carrier kit, paired with a Maxim CQB stock which came with a standard weight buffer. I also purchased a Maxim H1 buffer to try out. I have been playing around with the buffer weights and have wanted to try a heavier H2 or H3 buffer for the type of ammo I want to use.

            I would like to not buy a whole new buffer kit at about $100 each, so I reached out to Maxim Defense requesting if I could buy the separate weights. As you may know, the Maxim CQB uses a proprietary shorty buffer:

            Milspec buffer weight diameter: 0.55in
            Maxim buffer weight Diameter: 0.625in (5/8in)





            Well Maxim returned my email simply stating they only sell the weights as a kit. So you have to spend almost $100 for a whole kit instead of a simple tungsten weight.

            So here is what I would like to do, I would like to make custom weights for the Maxim CQB stock and brace for a lower cost than $100 each. I can buy 5/8in tungsten and steel stock for a nominal cost. I need to find an effective way to repeatedly cut these at the same length.



            Here are the measurements I have so far:

            CQB weights diameter: 0.625in (5/8in)
            CQB weights overall length: 24mm (23.75mm on the H1)

            CQB rubber pad: 1.6mm

            CQB H1 tungsten weight length: 8.6mm (0.34in)
            CQB H1 steel weight length: 13.5mm (0.532in)

            I will need to get a scale with a proper range to estimate mass to cylinder size, as my reloading scale is too low a range. According to my estimates of mass per material:

            304 stainless steel: 7.93g/cm3
            Tungsten: 19.3g/cm3
            Assuming you already know about crankshaft balancing weights like these:
            Heavy Metal available in standard size slugs and 12" bars. If you don't see your exact needs listed, please call us we can make custom sizes. Ream your holes true to size, our Heavy Metal comes standard with a .002 -.003 press fit.


            Call them and have them quote you for finish sized weights for your application.
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            • #7
              CamW
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1658

              Will the weights in this kit work for you? Only $45

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57122

                Originally posted by CamW
                Will the weights in this kit work for you? Only $45

                https://www.jsesurplus.com/kakar-15c...bufferkit.aspx
                No.
                He is working with a nonstandard buffer system that uses larger diameter weights than a mil-spec type buffer.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #9
                  SixPence
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                  • Jul 2022
                  • 18

                  Originally posted by kcstott
                  You're going to find out it would be far cheaper to buy the kit.

                  Any shop that has the knowledge and skill to cut tungsten is going to want a few hour minimum.

                  Also your math is wrong. it's 9.168 grams not Kg
                  Roger that on the math. Other than the misplaced decimal, is my estimation of the mass correct?

                  I sent some inquiries on Alibaba. Depending on the feedback I could get on the interest for this, it might not be that expensive. All depending if a combination of steel and tungsten weights totalling a length of 24mm could be used to equate to the mass of a H1, H2, H3 buffer, etc.

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                  • #10
                    DrJeds44
                    Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 461

                    Originally posted by SixPence
                    I have a home built AR9 built on a CMMG RDB carrier kit, paired with a Maxim CQB stock which came with a standard weight buffer. I also purchased a Maxim H1 buffer to try out. I have been playing around with the buffer weights and have wanted to try a heavier H2 or H3 buffer for the type of ammo I want to use.

                    I would like to not buy a whole new buffer kit at about $100 each, so I reached out to Maxim Defense requesting if I could buy the separate weights. As you may know, the Maxim CQB uses a proprietary shorty buffer:

                    Milspec buffer weight diameter: 0.55in
                    Maxim buffer weight Diameter: 0.625in (5/8in)





                    Well Maxim returned my email simply stating they only sell the weights as a kit. So you have to spend almost $100 for a whole kit instead of a simple tungsten weight.

                    So here is what I would like to do, I would like to make custom weights for the Maxim CQB stock and brace for a lower cost than $100 each. I can buy 5/8in tungsten and steel stock for a nominal cost. I need to find an effective way to repeatedly cut these at the same length.



                    Here are the measurements I have so far:

                    CQB weights diameter: 0.625in (5/8in)
                    CQB weights overall length: 24mm (23.75mm on the H1)

                    CQB rubber pad: 1.6mm

                    CQB H1 tungsten weight length: 8.6mm (0.34in)
                    CQB H1 steel weight length: 13.5mm (0.532in)

                    I will need to get a scale with a proper range to estimate mass to cylinder size, as my reloading scale is too low a range. According to my estimates of mass per material:

                    304 stainless steel: 7.93g/cm3
                    Tungsten: 19.3g/cm3
                    Are you really complaining about spending a hundred bucks in 2022? Maybe shooting is the wrong hobby for you.

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                    • #11
                      DrJeds44
                      Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 461

                      I would have to assume your time is worth more than the cost of buying what you need. But maybe this an exercise to see if you can find an alternative. Have fun with your endeavor.

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                      • #12
                        kcstott
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11796

                        Originally posted by DrJeds44
                        Are you really complaining about spending a hundred bucks in 2022? Maybe shooting is the wrong hobby for you.
                        He's going to spend 3x that screwing around wasting time. then it's going to cost him 4x that to have a custom weight made.
                        There's always one that thinks they can do it faster cheeper

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                        • #13
                          kcstott
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11796

                          Originally posted by SixPence
                          Roger that on the math. Other than the misplaced decimal, is my estimation of the mass correct?

                          I sent some inquiries on Alibaba. Depending on the feedback I could get on the interest for this, it might not be that expensive. All depending if a combination of steel and tungsten weights totalling a length of 24mm could be used to equate to the mass of a H1, H2, H3 buffer, etc.
                          your estimation of mass is just that, an estimation, this all depends on alloy. your numbers are most likely pure tungsten which is not going to be what you get.

                          Have fun. You would have had your weights if you would have just ordered them.
                          Last edited by kcstott; 11-18-2022, 8:16 AM.

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                          • #14
                            'ol shooter
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                            • #15
                              SixPence
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                              • Jul 2022
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                              I could outsource this to Chyna and get them made in bulk easily. Already made some contacts. Question is, is there a demand for this?

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