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  • WWDHD?
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 2683

    torque screwdrivers

    Like a lot of people here I have a basic Wheeler FAT torque screwdriver. I guess it works fine. I've never broken or stripped out a screw using it. It just seems kinda imprecise to me. It's kind of vague as to the exact setting. I've used it more than I thought I would though- screws on various firearms and mounting scopes.
    I'm looking a the Capri CP21075 torque screwdriver. Is this overkill for my non-professional use or a good step up from the Wheeler? Any better options?
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  • #2
    Rickrock1
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2012
    • 5158

    I don’t think it’s over kill. I have quality ones and they never seem to fit good and eventually wobble out
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    • #3
      Fishwishin
      Member
      • Sep 2016
      • 416

      I just got my Wheeler FAT last week and I agree- the lack of a precise scale is a big FAT fail. The marks of the scale are too small and incremented too far apart. The indicator is too big and FAT to really know where it really is on the small scale.
      Life was simpler, and more honest, when revolvers and lever actions were the rule.

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      • #4
        hermosabeach
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19350

        Good tools are an investment


        If you are buying high end scopes, bases, optics, the $100 price difference is nothing

        Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

        Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

        Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

        Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
        (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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        • #5
          therealnickb
          King- Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2011
          • 8919

          Originally posted by Fishwishin
          I just got my Wheeler FAT last week and I agree- the lack of a precise scale is a big FAT fail. The marks of the scale are too small and incremented too far apart. The indicator is too big and FAT to really know where it really is on the small scale.
          This makes me sad.

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          • #6
            hermosabeach
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 19350

            Shop gunsmithing tools (582) at Brownells, including bench blocks, hammer & punch sets, screwdrivers, and tool kits for firearm maintenance and repairs.


            Or

            Since 1938 Precision Instruments has manufactured the torque products that industry depends on. Whether the application involves delicate fasteners at 8 ounce inch of torque, or massive bolts at 10,000 pound foot, Precision Instruments has a solution to fit your needs.
            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57103

              I have torque wrench calibrators.
              I have yet to see a fat wrench that actually hits the spec of what you have it set to.
              I won't use a fat wrench after seeing how bad they are.

              I recommend buying a good used USA made tool on ebay.
              Something like this:

              Or this:
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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              • #8
                pacrat
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2014
                • 10280

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                I have torque wrench calibrators.
                I have yet to see a fat wrench that actually hits the spec of what you have it set to.
                I won't use a fat wrench after seeing how bad they are.

                I recommend buying a good used USA made tool on ebay.
                Something like this:

                Or this:
                https://www.ebay.com/itm/304384511631
                Prices seem very low. I can only guess they don't hold value.

                Randall, which would you pick? Top one range is 8.2-36 inch #. Bottom is 6-30In#.

                Seems very versatile, but do they go low enough for little 6-48 scope screws?

                I've always just hand tightened fasteners on guns. And/or used my SnapOn In# wrench for guard screws.

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57103

                  Originally posted by pacrat
                  Prices seem very low. I can only guess they don't hold value.

                  Randall, which would you pick? Top one range is 8.2-36 inch #. Bottom is 6-30In#.

                  Seems very versatile, but do they go low enough for little 6-48 scope screws?

                  I've always just hand tightened fasteners on guns. And/or used my SnapOn In# wrench for guard screws.
                  The price is low because they are used.
                  Get the sturtevant richmont.
                  New ones run $200 and up.

                  The sturtevant richmont has a nicer feeling cam than the Utica.
                  I have them both and use the sturtevant richmont the most.

                  6-48 screws typically need 15 in-lbs wet (loctite is considered wet) or 18 in-lbs dry.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #10
                    mtenenhaus
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 3416

                    i would strongly advocate, in advance to purchasing, that you review the range of torque values for which you intend to utilize the tool....i failed to do so and unfortunately several of the manufacturer requisite torque value exceeded the range of the tool.

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                    • #11
                      WWDHD?
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 2683

                      Originally posted by mtenenhaus
                      i would strongly advocate, in advance to purchasing, that you review the range of torque values for which you intend to utilize the tool....i failed to do so and unfortunately several of the manufacturer requisite torque value exceeded the range of the tool.

                      10 in/lbs to 50 in/lbs is plenty of range for anything gun related I'd use this tool for.
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                      • #12
                        mtenenhaus
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 3416

                        I believe mine is Vortex brand. Works well

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                        • #13
                          hermosabeach
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19350

                          eBay

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          The price is low because they are used.
                          Get the sturtevant richmont.
                          New ones run $200 and up.

                          The sturtevant richmont has a nicer feeling cam than the Utica.
                          I have them both and use the sturtevant richmont the most.

                          6-48 screws typically need 15 in-lbs wet (loctite is considered wet) or 18 in-lbs dry.
                          Both of the auctions listed were for parts
                          One had a not calibrated sticker on it to boot


                          Randall

                          Is this the model you use?



                          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                          • #14
                            hermosabeach
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 19350

                            Lower price

                            The 810587 Sturtevant Richmonth Cal 36/4 Roto Torq' Micrometer Adjustable Torque Screwdriver starting at $198.00
                            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                            • #15
                              WWDHD?
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 2683

                              Originally posted by mtenenhaus
                              I believe mine is Vortex brand. Works well
                              That Vortex sure looks a awful lot like the Capri - and for about half as much too.
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                              semi-docile tax payer
                              amateur survivalist

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