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  • rplaw
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 1808

    Changing sights - target to combat

    What's involved in doing the swap? Is is more than just milling the flat on the rear of the slide?
    Some random thoughts:

    Somebody's gotta be the mole so it might as well be me. Seems to be working so far.

    Evil doesn't only come in black.

    Life is like a discount bakery. Usually everything is just what you ordered. But, occasionally you come face to face with an unexpected fruitcake. Surprise!

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    Sailormilan2
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 3471

    That really depends on what gun, and how the sights are mounted on the slide. If you are staying with a sight that uses the existing sight cuts in the slide it's not too hard. If you're changing to a totally different style of sight that requires a new mounting cut you need to modify the slide. Which means a gunsmith and more money..
    For example. On a Govt style 1911 with the original style sights, the rear sight is in a dovetail cut, and slides out left to right. A new sight will probably have to be fitted to the dovetail. The front sight has a post that goes into a hole drilled into the slide, and the end is peened to keep it in place. This means that if you want to R&R the front sight, you must punch out the old one. Then tap a new one in, then peen the end. Possibly do a little filing on the peened area, so the barrel bushing can be installed.
    If it has Novak style sight cuts, it a matter of driving out the old, fitting new, and installing them. On two of my 1911s some kind of adhesive was used to help keep the rear Novak style sight in place so I had to carefully split the sight with a hacksaw to remove the old one.
    Each type of gun is different, but sight installation usually is not hard. It usually takes a little time, and some patience.
    Last edited by Sailormilan2; 06-09-2021, 10:14 AM.

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    • #3
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57136

      Originally posted by rplaw
      What's involved in doing the swap? Is is more than just milling the flat on the rear of the slide?
      If you are talking about putting a novaks rear sight on the slide, it's milling the flat and the dovetail.
      The Novaks dovetail is wider and deeper than the original USGI dovetail if that's what you have now.
      There are a bunch of other different rear sight cuts too.

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      • #4
        rplaw
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 1808

        It's got Bomar's on it now.

        I'm probably going to leave it alone. Not ideal, but it is what it is.
        Some random thoughts:

        Somebody's gotta be the mole so it might as well be me. Seems to be working so far.

        Evil doesn't only come in black.

        Life is like a discount bakery. Usually everything is just what you ordered. But, occasionally you come face to face with an unexpected fruitcake. Surprise!

        My Utubery

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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19554

          why?

          Originally posted by rplaw
          It's got Bomar's on it now.

          I'm probably going to leave it alone. Not ideal, but it is what it is.
          Sights are relatively easy to change.
          Bowmar makes several different models too.

          Are you looking to solve a problem?

          Target sights are too Tight and you want more space between the front / rear sigh picture?

          Or mine- I'm getting older and I can't find the front sight in lower light.

          There might be a few options that will fit the existing dovetail.


          What problem are you trying to resolve?
          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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          • #6
            rplaw
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 1808

            Originally posted by hermosabeach
            Sights are relatively easy to change.
            Bowmar makes several different models too.

            Are you looking to solve a problem?

            Target sights are too Tight and you want more space between the front / rear sigh picture?

            Or mine- I'm getting older and I can't find the front sight in lower light.

            There might be a few options that will fit the existing dovetail.


            What problem are you trying to resolve?

            I don't have a "problem" per se. I'm really just exploring options for my .22 plinker and thinking combat fiber optic sights might help in certain lighting conditions.
            Some random thoughts:

            Somebody's gotta be the mole so it might as well be me. Seems to be working so far.

            Evil doesn't only come in black.

            Life is like a discount bakery. Usually everything is just what you ordered. But, occasionally you come face to face with an unexpected fruitcake. Surprise!

            My Utubery

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57136

              Originally posted by rplaw
              It's got Bomar's on it now.

              I'm probably going to leave it alone. Not ideal, but it is what it is.
              There used to be a fixed sight that would go into a bomar cut.
              I don't know if there still is or if it comes in a fiber variant though.

              Here is a fixed night sight that fits a bomar cut:
              HD-006-S/U (Square or U Notch)-T2 Night Sight for Springfield TRP and standard BoMar cuts.
              Last edited by ar15barrels; 06-09-2021, 8:59 PM.
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              • #8
                divingin
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 2522

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                There are a bunch of other different rear sight cuts too.
                What's with the empty space in the dovetail on the Rem/Para sight?

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57136

                  Originally posted by divingin
                  What's with the empty space in the dovetail on the Rem/Para sight?
                  No idea.
                  Ask EGW as it's from their website.
                  My guess is that it's a little piece of styrofoam that makes it LOOK like an empty space in the photo.
                  To the right of that little white spot, it looks like the dovetail is full width in the slide cut.
                  Randall Rausch

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                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
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