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  • PSLguy
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 817

    Removing super tight muzzle brake

    Got an AR pistol with a factory muzzle brake that just doesn't want to budge. Hand guard and receiver are all polymer, so I don't have a lot of places to firmly grasp onto it.

    I'm leaning towards removing the hand guard and gas block and just using a honking pipe wrench to hold on to the barrel.

    Muzzle brake is scarred up from initial attempt, but I don't care as I won't be re-using it.

    Never had one this tight. Suggestions
  • #2
    NoHeavyHitter
    Banned
    • Jul 2011
    • 2876

    Originally posted by PSLguy
    Muzzle brake is scarred up from initial attempt, but I don't care as I won't be re-using it.

    Never had one this tight. Suggestions
    Use a Dremel to split the brake lengthwise and split it open using a screwdriver (so you don't go deep enough to hit the threads).

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    • #3
      deephouse
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 3858

      Torch


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      • #4
        PSLguy
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 817

        Both are good ideas. May try torch first, then Dremel as last choice

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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57143

          I get a lot of barrels sent to me after people used a Dremel to split a muzzle device and they cut into the crown.
          Dremel safely or don't Dremel at all...

          My vote is to remove the handguard and hold the barrel properly in an aluminum block in a press and then just twist the muzzle device off.
          Always works for me.
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          • #6
            PachecoFTW
            • May 2010
            • 1422

            Torch, not a blow torch.
            I once spilled alot and I mean alot of rocksett on a brake and barrel.(years after I wanted to remove it) I soaked it in acetone, goof off, and multipurpose oil, but the damn thing never moved after each attempt.
            Heat it and give it a go. Only heat has worked for me.

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            • #7
              deephouse
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 3858

              Do you have a vise OP?


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              • #8
                PSLguy
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 817

                I have every necessary tool to do this properly including vise, Armorers tools, jigs to hold barrel, upper, lower, etc.

                Problem is gun is at my house in Utah, not here in CA where most tools are. Looks like I made need to move tools/jigs that are gun related up there. It's about time anyway I suppose. Most guns are there.
                Last edited by PSLguy; 07-31-2020, 9:34 AM.

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                • #9
                  checkenbach
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1441

                  I soaked mine in Kroil for a few days, then used a heat gun to warm it up. Still tight as a MoFo though...

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                  • #10
                    Scota4570
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 1724



                    Bubbas listen up. Pipe wrenches are not a gunsmiting tool! It is so sad to see all the maham that has been done to guns with pipe wrenches.

                    IF you are short on real barrel tools there is a cheap solution. Make a pair of maple or oak blocks that fit the barrel. Do this by putting a wood spacer between two blocks and drilling a barrel sized hole between the blocks.

                    Apply powdered rosin to the blocks where they will touch the barrel. You can get violin rosin from a music store or baseball pitcher rosin bags.

                    Position the blocks around the barrel, near the brake. Put it in a beefie machinists' vice and clamp down hard. The barrel is now held extremely securely. You will not even mark the bluing.

                    Please use a properly fighting wrench on the brake. Vice grips and pipe wrenches are not suitable.

                    There is no reason in the word to mar up your barrel.

                    Your brake may have been improperly secured with red loctite. Heat will break the bond, about 500*. Do not torch the brake enough to heat blue the metal. To much heat also melts the rosin.

                    Have fun.

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                    • #11
                      Experimentalist
                      Banned in Amsterdam
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • May 2006
                      • 1171

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      I get a lot of barrels sent to me after people used a Dremel to split a muzzle device and they cut into the crown.
                      Dremel safely or don't Dremel at all...

                      My vote is to remove the handguard and hold the barrel properly in an aluminum block in a press and then just twist the muzzle device off.
                      Always works for me.
                      Perhaps a bit of penetrating oil might help? Couldn't much hurt...
                      "An unarmed man can only flee from evil. And evil is not overcome by fleeing from it" - Col. Jeff Cooper

                      "Shot placement trumps all."

                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      Who uses 9mm for SD? Anything less than a 50BMG is stupid to use. Personally, I prefer canister rounds out of a 10lb Parrott rifle for SD.

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                      • #12
                        deephouse
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 3858

                        Originally posted by Scota4570


                        Bubbas listen up. Pipe wrenches are not a gunsmiting tool! It is so sad to see all the maham that has been done to guns with pipe wrenches.

                        IF you are short on real barrel tools there is a cheap solution. Make a pair of maple or oak blocks that fit the barrel. Do this by putting a wood spacer between two blocks and drilling a barrel sized hole between the blocks.

                        Apply powdered rosin to the blocks where they will touch the barrel. You can get violin rosin from a music store or baseball pitcher rosin bags.

                        Position the blocks around the barrel, near the brake. Put it in a beefie machinists' vice and clamp down hard. The barrel is now held extremely securely. You will not even mark the bluing.

                        Please use a properly fighting wrench on the brake. Vice grips and pipe wrenches are not suitable.

                        There is no reason in the word to mar up your barrel.

                        Your brake may have been improperly secured with red loctite. Heat will break the bond, about 500*. Do not torch the brake enough to heat blue the metal. To much heat also melts the rosin.

                        Have fun.

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                        • #13
                          Scota4570
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1724

                          Originally posted by deephouse
                          You’re asking guys that don’t have the tools to remove a flash hider... to make maple wood blocks that fit a barrel.


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                          If a guy does not have access to a saw, a drill, a wrench, and a machinist vice they should not work on their own guns. In the vein I would not suggest removing chrome lugs nuts from mag wheels with with a pipe wrench or vice grips either. IF you are going to work on guns some basic tools are needed. I just told everyone how to avoid buying a barrel vice.
                          Last edited by Scota4570; 07-31-2020, 7:14 PM.

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                          • #14
                            G-forceJunkie
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 6401

                            Google "AR-15 barrel vice jaws"

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                            • #15
                              deephouse
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 3858

                              Originally posted by Scota4570
                              If a guy does not have access to a saw, a drill, a wrench, and a machinist vice they should not work on their own guns.

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