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  • Donny1
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2344

    Ruger 22/45 Barrel Damage

    My 22/45 that I use for rimfire competitions had an issue with some Federal 36g 550 pack bulk ammo. The first time there was a louder pop and lots of smoke from the breach area. I inspected for a blockage but there was nothing in the barrel. Then it happened again, and again no blockage. After the second time I stopped using the ammo. When I cleaned the barrel I noticed two rings near the end of the barrel. There is no bulging or deformation, I closely inspected it. I have since fired at least two boxes of Automatch which is the preferred ammo with no issues. Accuracy seems the same.

    I contacted Federal and they are willing to compensate me. They requested I contact Ruger but they just say to send it in for evaluation. It is a Bull barrel on a Barreled receiver. I don't believe the barrel can be removed.

    My question is can it be repaired if I send it in or is it a waste of time? I don't think I can I buy an aftermarket Barreled receiver as it is the serialized firearm and not just a part, likely (for sure) not on the roster.

    This makes me sick, been shooting this gun for a decade and a swab then a few brush strokes has always made it perfect, clean and shinny.
  • #2
    keith1911
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 1297

    Have you contacted Ruger? They can tell you if the barrel can be removed.

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    • #3
      Zamble
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 2354

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      • #4
        Garv
        RSG Minion, Senior
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2014
        • 9069

        Originally posted by keith1911
        Have you contacted Ruger? They can tell you if the barrel can be removed.
        Originally posted by Zamble
        Ruger is excellent with warranty/replacement policy/repair’s.
        ^^^

        If they cannot replace just the barrel, they cannot replace the serialized assy. since it is off roster.

        If not damaged beyond reasonable functionality, they could send it back I assume.

        I sent in my SR-22 for repair after it dropped from the roster, they could not fix it and I ended up with an LC380 as the replacement gun.
        Originally posted by Kestryll:
        It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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        • #5
          'ol shooter
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 4646

          The barrel was squibbed. Question is does it still shoot well? The barrel can be replaced by Ruger. Contact them for instruction on shipping the gun, it won't be free, neither will the repair. Not their fault.
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          • #6
            Pofoo
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 1689

            How does it shoot?
            I have a old Colt Huntsman that is definitely bulged. You can feel the difference when you push a patch through it. I can't see it on the outside but a patch jumps about 1" when pushed through.
            It shoots very well. As the at least 2nd owner, I have no idea of how or when this happened or if it shot better before.
            So, if it shoots ok and the repair or replacement barrel is a big thing, it might be best to just leave it.

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57175

              Originally posted by Donny1
              My 22/45 that I use for rimfire competitions had an issue with some Federal 36g 550 pack bulk ammo. The first time there was a louder pop and lots of smoke from the breach area. I inspected for a blockage but there was nothing in the barrel. Then it happened again, and again no blockage. After the second time I stopped using the ammo. When I cleaned the barrel I noticed two rings near the end of the barrel. There is no bulging or deformation, I closely inspected it. I have since fired at least two boxes of Automatch which is the preferred ammo with no issues. Accuracy seems the same.

              I contacted Federal and they are willing to compensate me. They requested I contact Ruger but they just say to send it in for evaluation. It is a Bull barrel on a Barreled receiver. I don't believe the barrel can be removed.

              My question is can it be repaired if I send it in or is it a waste of time? I don't think I can I buy an aftermarket Barreled receiver as it is the serialized firearm and not just a part, likely (for sure) not on the roster.
              The loud pop was a case venting at the breech when the bullet ran into another bullet in the barrel.
              The pressure spike makes the case head fail which causes the pop but also clears the barrel and creates the ring.
              Two rings means it happened twice.

              The barrel CAN be removed but Ruger will not want to swap barrels as it will be much easier for THEM to just replace the whole gun.
              That causes a problem for YOU if the gun is off roster now.

              The reason Ruger won't want to replace the barrel has to do with how the barrels are machined.
              Ruger installs a barrel into an action before the action is finish machined.
              They then finish machine the barrel and action as a mated pair and put the markings on it at the end before the final finish.
              That system does not allow for an easy replacement of the barrel as your receiver is already machined and marked.
              They don't like to do custom work which is what would be required to replace the barrel.
              Randall Rausch

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57175

                Originally posted by Garv
                If not damaged beyond reasonable functionality, they could send it back I assume.

                I sent in my SR-22 for repair after it dropped from the roster, they could not fix it and I ended up with an LC380 as the replacement gun.
                They usually will NOT send back a gun after they deem it unsafe.
                That's why you ended up with a different gun.

                They will consider a ringed barrel unsafe...
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #9
                  Pofoo
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1689

                  Another possible answer would be to have a barrel liner installed.
                  This probably isn't a good fiscal idea, but if the gun has sentimental value?????
                  Or, if close to the muzzle, a counter bore may help.

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                  • #10
                    TKM
                    Onward through the fog!
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 10657

                    How long is your barrel and will trimming off the ringed portion make it look weird?
                    It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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                    • #11
                      ysr_racer
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 12014

                      Originally posted by Donny1
                      . There is no bulging or deformation, I closely inspected it. I have since fired at least two boxes of Automatch which is the preferred ammo with no issues. Accuracy seems the same.
                      Just shoot it?

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                      • #12
                        Donny1
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2344

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        The loud pop was a case venting at the breech when the bullet ran into another bullet in the barrel.
                        The pressure spike makes the case head fail which causes the pop but also clears the barrel and creates the ring.
                        Two rings means it happened twice.
                        Not possible, I was shooting a steel target and the previous rounds rang the steel both times.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57175

                          Originally posted by Donny1
                          Not possible, I was shooting a steel target and the previous rounds rang the steel both times.
                          Ring's don't happen without bullets striking bore obstructions.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                          • #14
                            eviioiive
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 1620

                            I just kept shooting mine when this happened... still just as accurate
                            Originally posted by Kestryll
                            Your name has been publicly printed in newspapers and on the web, your expectation of privacy is flat gone.
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                            • #15
                              splithoof
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2015
                              • 6022

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels

                              The barrel CAN be removed but Ruger will not want to swap barrels as it will be much easier for THEM to just replace the whole gun.


                              The reason Ruger won't want to replace the barrel has to do with how the barrels are machined.
                              Ruger installs a barrel into an action before the action is finish machined.
                              They then finish machine the barrel and action as a mated pair and put the markings on it at the end before the final finish.
                              That system does not allow for an easy replacement of the barrel as your receiver is already machined and marked.
                              They don't like to do custom work which is what would be required to replace the barrel.
                              I can believe the above.
                              I acquired a Ruger Super Redhawk in .44 Magnum, that had a useless to me 9.5" factory barrel; I inquired with Ruger about sending it in to be simply shortened, with the front sight being replaced/remounted. They stated, in writing, that they would NOT do the requested work. Fair enough. Off it went to Hamilton Bowen over at Bowen Classic Arms, and four months later came back to me as a pristine example of what a truly talented gunsmith can do with a rough chunk of stainless steel that was masquerading as a overweight golf club. If you suspect that your pistol may not be able to escape Ruger once have it, consider a qualified gunsmith who specializes in that particular model; you may end up liking it even more than previously.
                              As for that crap .22 rimfire ammo........

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