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  • Gun1
    Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 371

    RIA Builders Kit

    I've been eyeing the RIA double stacked 1911s for quite some time now. However, here in California the 10mm version is not available for sale, only the 45 ACP version. I saw on Armscor's website that they sell 1911 builder's kits in 10mm and I was therefore wondering if it's an easy task to fit one of these builder's kits onto a double stacked 1911 45 acp frame? Is it pretty much a drop in kit or does it require heavy gunsmithing?
  • #2
    lamduh
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 1964

    Originally posted by Gun1
    I've been eyeing the RIA double stacked 1911s for quite some time now. However, here in California the 10mm version is not available for sale, only the 45 ACP version. I saw on Armscor's website that they sell 1911 builder's kits in 10mm and I was therefore wondering if it's an easy task to fit one of these builder's kits onto a double stacked 1911 45 acp frame? Is it pretty much a drop in kit or does it require heavy gunsmithing?
    Ive done this 3 times now, just not with 10mm/40sw. I did this with double stack 1911 a2 gi i purchased and swapped all the gi parts out.

    2nd time was with a 38super and converted to 9mm. Same process swapped all gi bn oarts with upgraded parts.

    3rd time was with 38super to 9m again but went the ms route/commander length.

    All went fairly smooth but minor fitting with barrel hood and barrel lugs for lock uo3 and returning to battery. Slide to frame fitting will be needed as well. Most work was done with filing and some diamond paste of differant grits and alot of racking the slide sitting watching tv. It took me about 2 wks on and off but pro ably about 8-10hrs total of just fitting slowly with paste and filling. You can always take off but you cant add metal.


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    • #3
      Gun1
      Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 371

      Thanks for the info. I was curious to know if it required fitting or if it was similar to a Glock where you just drop in everything. Sounds like it's definitely not drop in.

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      • #4
        johncmng
        Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 340

        where can one purchase a double stacked RIA 10mm?

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        • #5
          Gun1
          Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 371

          Originally posted by johncmng
          where can one purchase a double stacked RIA 10mm?
          Anywhere outside California or Massachusetts.

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          • #6
            h.charlie
            Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 497

            I would suggest looking for a ria tac ultra 2 they are probaly easier to find and will except most 45acp mags without modifying them to work with 10mm but remember a ten 10rd 45mag will hold 11rds of 10mm

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            • #7
              johncmng
              Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 340

              Originally posted by Gun1
              Anywhere outside California or Massachusetts.
              Even for a 80%

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              • #8
                wolfmann
                Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 466

                To further along the rabbithole quest try here.
                EveryGunPart offers a huge selection of gun parts kits & accessories for builds & repairs. Browse quality parts online & order today with secure checkout.

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                • #9
                  fawndog
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 856

                  Nothing 1911 is drop in.
                  Not for me anyway. I bought the HC GI A2, then the 10mm slide, mags, barrel etc. It might have fit if I could have gotten a entire GI top half. The barrels are different on the Tac Ultra which has a Para ramp, the GI frame needs to be cut for that to fit.

                  At this point I gave my gunsmith a box of parts (yes I was that guy), I asked for it to work and for it to be reliable. You could buy another pistol for what the gunsmithing cost, but it's worth it.

                  Find a Tac Ultra in Ca, or have one built, the difference in price will be negligible.

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57143

                    Originally posted by johncmng
                    where can one purchase a double stacked RIA 10mm?
                    Originally posted by Gun1
                    Anywhere outside California or Massachusetts.
                    Originally posted by johncmng
                    Even for a 80%
                    80% handguns can only be built as single shots in CA.
                    Last edited by ar15barrels; 02-19-2020, 12:00 AM.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                    • #11
                      Gun1
                      Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 371

                      Originally posted by fawndog
                      Nothing 1911 is drop in.
                      Not for me anyway. I bought the HC GI A2, then the 10mm slide, mags, barrel etc. It might have fit if I could have gotten a entire GI top half. The barrels are different on the Tac Ultra which has a Para ramp, the GI frame needs to be cut for that to fit.

                      At this point I gave my gunsmith a box of parts (yes I was that guy), I asked for it to work and for it to be reliable. You could buy another pistol for what the gunsmithing cost, but it's worth it.

                      Find a Tac Ultra in Ca, or have one built, the difference in price will be negligible.
                      Did you not try a Rock Standard FS barrel and slide? They're also available in 10mm and seem to be a better fit for the GI.

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                      • #12
                        fawndog
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 856

                        Originally posted by Gun1
                        Did you not try a Rock Standard FS barrel and slide? They're also available in 10mm and seem to be a better fit for the GI.
                        Not available at the time. They seem to be hit and miss, better than Tangfolio for availability though.

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                        • #13
                          jimmykan
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 3093

                          To complete an 80% frame, you need either a mill or a frame rail cutter, a drill press and jig fixture.

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57143

                            Originally posted by jimmykan
                            To complete an 80% frame, you need either a mill or a frame rail cutter, a drill press and jig fixture.

                            https://www.matrixprecisionparts.com...yl8jza98nkq81o
                            And a time machine set to 2013 to be able to build as a semi-auto pistol.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                            • #15
                              pacrat
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • May 2014
                              • 10284

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              And a time machine set to 2013 to be able to build as a semi-auto pistol.
                              Paging Mr Herbert George Wells.

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