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  • Pofoo
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1682

    Springs

    Is there a way to know if a spring is bad?
    This case is the recoil spring on a Walther PP 7.65/32acp. This is a excellent quality all steel gun, but it's not necessarily a sporting gun that was made to shoot a lot.
    So, what to look for? Is there a area that gets hammered when the spring goes soft? Or???
  • #2
    67Cuda
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 1716

    Springs are cheap, just change them if you think they are suspect.
    No way to check, unless they are obviously damaged.
    Originally posted by ivanimal
    People that call other member stupid get time off.
    So much for being honest.

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    • #3
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57143

      Originally posted by Pofoo
      Is there a way to know if a spring is bad?
      This case is the recoil spring on a Walther PP 7.65/32acp.
      So, what to look for?
      Is there a area that gets hammered when the spring goes soft? Or???
      Find out what the specification is for the preload at the installed length.
      Then test the preload at the installed length.
      A worn out spring will be lower than the spec.

      There is also sometimes a free length spec.
      Check the free length.
      Springs collapse and get shorter in free length when they are worn out.
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      • #4
        67Cuda
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 1716

        Originally posted by ar15barrels
        Find out what the specification is for the preload at the installed length.
        Then test the preload at the installed length.
        A worn out spring will be lower than the spec.

        There is also sometimes a free length spec.
        Check the free length.
        Springs collapse and get shorter in free length when they are worn out.
        I imagine firearm makers use custom springs specific to the firearm being manufactured.
        Not exactly sure how one would go about getting specs on them.
        Originally posted by ivanimal
        People that call other member stupid get time off.
        So much for being honest.

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        • #5
          CamW
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 1684

          A new recoil spring for the Walther PP in .32 is $7.89 from Wolff Gunsprings.
          Buy a new one and compare the lengths of the springs.

          Last edited by CamW; 02-08-2020, 9:12 PM.

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          • #6
            Pofoo
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 1682

            Can you really use the length of 2 different brands of springs? Maybe if they claim to be identical to factory specs, but what if they just say "fit" or "for use on"?
            I know on cars, suspension springs can look vastly different--taller/shorter, larger diameter "wire", different alloy's, etc-- and still be rated the same.

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            • #7
              Pofoo
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 1682

              Originally posted by ar15barrels
              Find out what the specification is for the preload at the installed length.
              Then test the preload at the installed length.
              A worn out spring will be lower than the spec.

              There is also sometimes a free length spec.
              Check the free length.
              Springs collapse and get shorter in free length when they are worn out.
              Makes sense.
              Thank you.

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57143

                Originally posted by Pofoo
                Can you really use the length of 2 different brands of springs? Maybe if they claim to be identical to factory specs, but what if they just say "fit" or "for use on"?
                I know on cars, suspension springs can look vastly different--taller/shorter, larger diameter "wire", different alloy's, etc-- and still be rated the same.
                Preload at installed length is the great equalizer.
                Does not matter when the free length or wire diameter or number of coils is if the preload and final loads are what they should be.
                Last edited by ar15barrels; 02-09-2020, 4:20 PM.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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