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  • MrFeetZ
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 545

    Rebuilding upper - have a question

    I am thinking of changing out the barrel and handguard on my AR. I currently have a colt 6920 with stock 16" 5.56 barrel with a 1:7 twist and a Fortis Rev handguard. I am looking to change to a Faxon Match Series 16" .223 Wylde w/ 1:8 twist and a Centurion HG.

    I have the tools, but hardly any experience and I'm happy to try the work myself.

    I am wondering if I need to change the bcg (or bolt) when going to this new barrel? Existing bcg does not have very many rounds thru, certainly less than a thousand or so if that makes any difference.

    Also, would I need to change buffer? The colt has a carbine length gas system and the new barrel is a mid length.

    Come to think of it, I guess I would also need a new gas tube.

    Maybe I should get a new, second upper receiver and just have a completely second upper assembly. But then I would need new BCG, charging handle and optic. Boy... this is getting expensive.....

    Seriously, please let me know if new bcg or bolt would be needed if I changed barrel as described above. I suppose the big thing driving this change is my desire to change handguard. I'm not really digging a rail at both 12 and 6 o'clock and like the more narrow diameter of the centurion cmr. I'm ok with the existing barrel but thought I may as well change it while I'm there.
  • #2
    sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19629

    I did something similar with an M4 type upper that has plastic handguards, front sight post, etc. I would have to remove the sight post, install a gas block, remove barrel nut, install a new barrel nut that goes with the free float handguard, etc, etc.

    Just as I was about to start buying all the parts and tools, I found a complete upper on sale for a couple hundred bucks and just bought that.

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    • #3
      kcheung2
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 4387

      You don't need to change the bcg, nor the rear buffer. You will need a new midlength gas tube.

      If you got a new complete upper (sans bcg) you won't necessarily need to get a new bcg. Like the situation above, you can reuse your existing bcg. While it's not the recommended situation, it's not hard to swap out bcgs between 2 uppers. Takes less time than loading 10 rds in a mag, actually. Or don't cheap out and just buy another bcg, they're not that expensive. Esp now when Classic has sales on Toolcraft ones for $70,

      https://www.classicfirearms.com/tool...556-9310-bolt/)

      or PSA sells nitrided ones all day for $60.
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      • #4
        MrFeetZ
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 545

        Ya, that sounds just like me. I rushed to get rid of the front site post and put a quad rail on my colt because:..... Im impatient! Well, now that Ive used it, I dont find it all that comfortable and my wife hates it. So, much so that I ended up getting a second AR for her and went with a complete Odin upper. I have a friend who has the Centurion CMR rail and I find it really comfortable. Just not many places that sell uppers with that handguard


        Originally posted by sigstroker
        I did something similar with an M4 type upper that has plastic handguards, front sight post, etc. I would have to remove the sight post, install a gas block, remove barrel nut, install a new barrel nut that goes with the free float handguard, etc, etc.

        Just as I was about to start buying all the parts and tools, I found a complete upper on sale for a couple hundred bucks and just bought that.

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        • #5
          MrFeetZ
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 545

          thanks a bunch for that link! Funny, I picked that exact BCG but your place is $10 cheaper than what I found.

          Originally posted by kcheung2
          You don't need to change the bcg, nor the rear buffer. You will need a new midlength gas tube.

          If you got a new complete upper (sans bcg) you won't necessarily need to get a new bcg. Like the situation above, you can reuse your existing bcg. While it's not the recommended situation, it's not hard to swap out bcgs between 2 uppers. Takes less time than loading 10 rds in a mag, actually. Or don't cheap out and just buy another bcg, they're not that expensive. Esp now when Classic has sales on Toolcraft ones for $70,

          https://www.classicfirearms.com/tool...556-9310-bolt/)

          or PSA sells nitrided ones all day for $60.

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57116

            Originally posted by MrFeetZ
            I am thinking of changing out the barrel and handguard on my AR. I currently have a colt 6920 with stock 16" 5.56 barrel with a 1:7 twist and a Fortis Rev handguard. I am looking to change to a Faxon Match Series 16" .223 Wylde w/ 1:8 twist and a Centurion HG.

            I have the tools, but hardly any experience and I'm happy to try the work myself.

            I am wondering if I need to change the bcg (or bolt) when going to this new barrel? Existing bcg does not have very many rounds thru, certainly less than a thousand or so if that makes any difference.

            Also, would I need to change buffer? The colt has a carbine length gas system and the new barrel is a mid length.

            Come to think of it, I guess I would also need a new gas tube.

            Maybe I should get a new, second upper receiver and just have a completely second upper assembly. But then I would need new BCG, charging handle and optic. Boy... this is getting expensive.....

            Seriously, please let me know if new bcg or bolt would be needed if I changed barrel as described above. I suppose the big thing driving this change is my desire to change handguard. I'm not really digging a rail at both 12 and 6 o'clock and like the more narrow diameter of the centurion cmr. I'm ok with the existing barrel but thought I may as well change it while I'm there.
            You can re-use your old bolt carrier group.
            Just check headspace with the new barrel.

            You can re-use your carbine buffer and spring.

            You could simply change your handguard to start and then decide later if you want a different barrel too.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #7
              MrFeetZ
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 545

              I think I will start at just handguard. However, the barrel I'm looking at is on sale now!

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57116

                Originally posted by MrFeetZ
                I think I will start at just handguard. However, the barrel I'm looking at is on sale now!
                And it probably will be on a BETTER sale on Black Friday.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #9
                  Dave Hoback
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                  • Feb 2015
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