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  • javaduke
    Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 265

    CNC Engraving Machine?

    Folks, this is probably a wishful thinking but I thought I'd ask anyway. What I'm looking for is a relatively compact bench top engraving machine that can do simple engraving jobs, such as put a line or two of text on a slide or frame. No need for an ATF-required depth, and doesn't have to be super fast. I tried to do a little bit of research and it seems like there's a gap between what's available on eBay or Amazon (and apparently is not capable of doing this kind of jobs) and an industrial grade machines that cost several thousands. I'm wondering if there's a solution in a price range, of, say, up to $600.
  • #2
    kcstott
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 11796

    You need to add a zero to your budget.
    A dedicated engraver, a laser or even a bench top CNC mill with enough accuracy and rigidity to produce quality work is going to cost a few grand minimum.

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    • #3
      javaduke
      Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 265

      Originally posted by kcstott
      You need to add a zero to your budget.
      A dedicated engraver, a laser or even a bench top CNC mill with enough accuracy and rigidity to produce quality work is going to cost a few grand minimum.
      Funny, I knew one of the replies would be yours and along these lines. And I don't disagree, if I was looking to produce a quality engraving jobs for others and charge money for that, I would definitely seek to purchase an industrial grade machine. That's not my goal, however. I'm looking for something, well, analogous to point-and-shoot camera, so to speak. Some of those cheaper cameras still produce decent results, but they are not as good as professional Hasselblads, Mamiya and such, I know that. Still, I'm looking for a minimal viable solution that can engrave carbon and stainless steel.

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      • #4
        hermosabeach
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19561

        Ok

        Since cheap alpha numeric stamps are out-

        Many gunsmiths use a tool like this

        You print out a label that is a mask

        You use electrolysis to etch names- numbers - logo- etc into steel

        Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

        Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

        Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

        Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
        (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19561

          Not sure if this would work for you or not

          Shop Centroid CNC Engraving Software - 10740 from Penn Tool Co., where innovation meets precision. Maximize efficiency with proven expertise shop with Penn Tool Co. today!



          Or this

          Shop Proxxon Engraving Device GE 20 - 27-106 from the experts at Penn Tool Co., blending tradition with cutting-edge technology. Maximize efficiency with proven expertise shop with Penn Tool Co. today!
          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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          • #6
            javaduke
            Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 265

            Originally posted by hermosabeach
            Ok

            Since cheap alpha numeric stamps are out-

            Many gunsmiths use a tool like this

            You print out a label that is a mask

            You use electrolysis to etch names- numbers - logo- etc into steel

            https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Elec.../dp/B01927G294
            Hm, that is actually not a bad idea. Any examples of what this machine can make?

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            • #7
              hermosabeach
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19561

              A friend used this for years until getting a WW2 era engraver that weighs 6,000 pounds



              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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              • #8
                hermosabeach
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 19561

                They make a printer that can take most images and print them as a stencil.

                Again- works on steel as it conducts electricity

                Raw Aluminum does conduct electricity. I don’t know how or if this would work on AL or not
                Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                • #9
                  kcstott
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Originally posted by javaduke
                  Funny, I knew one of the replies would be yours and along these lines. And I don't disagree, if I was looking to produce a quality engraving jobs for others and charge money for that, I would definitely seek to purchase an industrial grade machine. That's not my goal, however. I'm looking for something, well, analogous to point-and-shoot camera, so to speak. Some of those cheaper cameras still produce decent results, but they are not as good as professional Hasselblads, Mamiya and such, I know that. Still, I'm looking for a minimal viable solution that can engrave carbon and stainless steel.

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                  • #10
                    hermosabeach
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19561

                    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                    • #11
                      javaduke
                      Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 265

                      OK, thanks everyone, I guess I'll explore the etching route.

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                      • #12
                        hermosabeach
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 19561

                        The MARK300ADE Assembly contains a general assortment of applicators for doing normal and deep-etch Electro-Chemical marking.



                        Mark300ADE, Electro-Chemical Metal Marking Kit
                        Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                        Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                        Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                        Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                        (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                        • #13
                          hermosabeach
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19561

                          If you search you tube you can find a variety of videos on the kit

                          Knife making forums might be a better place to search to see what people are using and tips for a clean etch

                          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                          • #14
                            mnichols
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 2625

                            This is my electro-chemical etcher:


                            Works great on aluminum. I did all my raw 80s to ATF spec. Text and logo/designs. Get you own vinyl stencil cutter and youre good to go.

                            I got my stencils here: http://www.dogfightink.com/stencilsmisc.html

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                            • #15
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57141

                              Originally posted by hermosabeach
                              Not sure if this would work for you or not

                              http://www.penntoolco.com/centroid-cnc-engraving-10740/
                              That link is to a $500 software package for engraving.
                              That does NOT include a CNC router that he would also need before the software will be useful.

                              Originally posted by hermosabeach
                              That manual engraver would likely do what he needs with some tweaking to make more workspace room for larger parts to fit into it.
                              Randall Rausch

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