Hogue Freedom Fighter Fixed Mag Convrsn Kit

[BMartin1776]

So I've seen vids of DIY guys doing this mod to their AR's that more or less adds a spring loaded pin, when the receivers are closed, into the "tunnel" of the mag release that locks the mag release button out.


Hogue has run with idea making a jig and parts to make the mod avail for pre-order!

[f4irder2]

Any word on when these will be available?

[ron212]

The Video on the Hogue website says shipping in August:

https://www.hogueinc.com/tacrifles/ar15/freedomfighter

[BMartin1776]

The Video on the Hogue website says shipping in August:
https://www.hogueinc.com/tacrifles/ar15/freedomfighter

Looks like they added it in to the Brownells vid.

The tap is not included so factor that in if you go this route

[MosinVirus]

wow, looks very similar to the picture I drew up in December of 2016.



link to my post:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=19420829&postcount=17

I edited the post just now to include the imgur photo link because I got screwed by the Photobucket just like everyone else.

After removing the photobucket link out of my post, it seems the image was unlocked, so it shows up in the post below mine where someone quoted my post. Just sayin... or I guess it doesnt. It did show up on my computer. Yeah shows up on my computer. but not on the phone for some reason.

Link to thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...9#post19420829

[ar15barrels]

wow, looks very similar to the picture I drew up in December of 2016.



link to my post:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=19420829&postcount=17

I edited the post just now to include the imgur photo link because I got screwed by the Photobucket just like everyone else.

After removing the photobucket link out of my post, it seems the image was unlocked, so it shows up in the post below mine where someone quoted my post. Just sayin... or I guess it doesnt. It did show up on my computer. Yeah shows up on my computer. but not on the phone for some reason.

Link to thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...9#post19420829

I came up with the same idea last year as well.
My design had the pin going into the magazine catch bar so the bar can not move when the upper is closed on the lower.
I have all the notes in my phone where I took the measurements for the stepped pin, hollow setscrew and spring.

[MosinVirus]

^^^When do you want to get in touch with Hogue???

[BMartin1776]

word to the wise, next time file provisional patent it gives you 1 year to get idea rolling find investor etc, that drawing and descr you had is enough for one and NO you don't have to spend ton of money or need an atty!

[ar15barrels]

^^^When do you want to get in touch with Hogue???

I just looked in my phone.
The last time I worked on the project was July 9th 2016 according to the date stamp on my IOS notes.

[Fozzie TheBear]

By far the cleanest solution, I think. Only downside, you are stuck with an extra hole in your lower. $50 for 3 lowers seems reasonable.

Vendor named Crusader Tactical was selling 80% lowers with a similar setup a couple gun shows ago. They were not interested in selling the bits separately and they want something silly for the lower, honestly can't remember but probably $100+.

Also the same concept Battle Arms Development used on their CA lower but not sure that ever came to market or if they offer a kit. Thread over in vendor section about it started November 2016: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1267220

Couldn't tell who thought of what when...

[Bullets&Whitewalls]

It's a good solution for those not wanting to buy new mags. I was not liking the idea of drilling my lower but the more I think about it it really isn't that big of a deal. I use that loosely of course, it's still rediculous that we are even looking at these options.

[BMartin1776]

well id rather this hole vs going featureless, and having to reconfigure entire rifle

[MosinVirus]

I would rather sacrifice 10% of comfort, but retain 100% functionality.

As in, no pistol grip, but standard magazine release. Clearing malfunctions comes to mind. Who cares if the pistol grip is not a pistol grip anymore, I can at least get the magazine out without fiddling with the action.

[pklin1297]

After figuring out what fits me and not years ago, I've been essentially building featureless ARs ever since, with the exception of the pistol grip, so all I have to change now is that one part, then removing all the BBs I've had before. I also don't want to fumble around with the action when loading/unloading. In inexperienced hands that will be a safety concern.

[Whiterabbit]

Anyone else buy this? I preordered a month ago. Says in stock, pretty sure I got it at home, but won't be back till wednesday. And not likely able to install it for some time.

Anyone install theirs? How are you liking it so far?

I like the fact that I can pin a mag and go to the range, but can pull the pin and evil features and I'm back to featureless. (and go back to the range). Fully convertible gun.

I came up with the same idea last year as well.
My design had the pin going into the magazine catch bar so the bar can not move when the upper is closed on the lower.
I have all the notes in my phone where I took the measurements for the stepped pin, hollow setscrew and spring.

Wouldn't it be better to be semi-bullet-button?

As in, have the pin fix the mag release button. BUT, have the mag button not fixed on the catch bar, but rather slide on the bar, and rest on a shelf cut int othe mag catch. With a spring to pull in the mag catch to the mag button.

That way, you could at least snap a mag in with the gun apart, but it wouldn't come out unless you separated the upper and lower.

I always thought that would be much more useful.

Not that it matters for me. I'm against separating the upper and lower to drop a mag, I want this so I can keep the "look" of a standard mag release but 100% fix the mag, for when I want that capability (and yet still remove the pin when I want to convert to or from featureless).