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  • duckman1
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 3737

    Double Barrel Shotgun work needed

    Looking for someone to do the work and I'm willing to ship it.

    Pictures in a few days

    As it turns out it's not a Sears or Wards gun........It's a Baker Gun Co. Mfg. 1920-29 The barrels are fluid steel it's 20 ga. and in decent condition. I don't believe the chamber is 2 3/4 might be shorter.



    Mechanically it's still pretty tight and I shot my first birds with it back in the early 70's, it has not been shot since (using 2/34" low base). Stock was broken and repaired, it wobbles on the gun, I want to do the minimum to make it shoot and safe.

    The gun belonged to my father it was the first he ever purchased and I want to make it safe to shoot again. The collector value means less to me than carrying it in the field.
    Last edited by duckman1; 07-01-2017, 8:03 PM. Reason: Update w/ pictures Frames 7 & 8
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    Scota4570
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 1724

    I doubt you can install screw in chokes, the barrels are too thin. Poly chokes would be impossible, and besides they are ugly and not steel shot compatable. I would not shoot steel shot in it, the barrels will probably seperate. Here in Cali it is going to be steel shot every where all the time soon.

    The gun is a Stevens 311, but rebranded? If so I would reccomend not putting any money in it. They were poor quality when first made. They were designed to sell cheap, not work well. They do not operate smoothly, even in like new condition. You will be chasing mechanical issues if you actually shoot it much.

    I'd leave it alone and conister the damage to be part of the provinance of your father's use.
    Last edited by Scota4570; 06-30-2017, 3:53 PM.

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    • #3
      duckman1
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2009
      • 3737

      It's a Baker Black Beauty in 20ga. Nice gun.

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      • #4
        zoner
        Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 449

        try contacting Mike Orlen. He's a moderator at shotgunworld.com

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          edgerly779
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          Forget the chokes keep original as possible. It is like putting a bright ribbon on a jackass. Only a yuplet would do that (LOL)

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          • #7
            duckman1
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 3737

            Pictureshttp://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/59585d1f...01_192112.jpg?


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            • #8
              duckman1
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2009
              • 3737

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              I can take more pictures if you have a specific view you would like to see.
              Last edited by duckman1; 07-01-2017, 8:05 PM.

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              • #9
                ironhorse1
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 1004

                You have a copy of a Crescent shotgun. I don't believe there is much value there.

                I just fixed a cracked stock on one and there were more broken stock pieces on the inside.

                A lot of work on a shotgun that is probably 100 years old.

                irh

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                • #10
                  duckman1
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                  • Aug 2009
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                  • #11
                    duckman1
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 3737

                    Originally posted by ironhorse1
                    You have a copy of a Crescent shotgun. I don't believe there is much value there.

                    I just fixed a cracked stock on one and there were more broken stock pieces on the inside.

                    A lot of work on a shotgun that is probably 100 years old.

                    irh
                    It's not about the value and it's not mfg. by Crescent.

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                    • #12
                      kcstott
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 11796

                      butt stock

                      found this with a little work.
                      your shotgun was made between 1920-1929 and was a mid grade Baker gun. retail price at the time was about $30 Nice that the only thing checkered was the fore end, that will make a repair cheaper.

                      I highly recommend getting the chambers verified as being true 2 3/4 " shells and i would only shoot very light loads made for older shotgun with lower pressures, I would not touch the chokes. Most likely the right side is going to a be a modified and the left a full choke.

                      And to be honest, this is going to be a very expensive fix if sent to a smith compared to the value of the weapon in todays market, that shotgun in good condition is worth right around $400 from what I can find on them.
                      You'll be near that in labor with a complete tear down, clean and tune, Add in the stock repair or replacement and refinish and you right there.

                      Unless you're willing to shel out good money for this, I'd consider oiling it up and hanging it on the wall. as much as it pains me to say that.

                      Your location would help too as far as giving you ideas on whom could do the work or where to ship it.

                      If I was to ship something like this out. I'd have to say Midwest gun works. but they may not touch it. My first choice would be Ken Breda but he might shoot me in the foot to curse him with such work.

                      I do remember a smith on another board and in his signature was.
                      "There's not job too big so long as you have enough money"
                      Last edited by kcstott; 07-01-2017, 8:19 PM.

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                      • #13
                        ironhorse1
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1004

                        Never said is was made by Crescent just that it is a copy.

                        The one I fixed was made by Meridian. Take a look at the Numrich Gunparts web site.

                        Look up the Crescent shotgun parts and you will see all the parts are the same.

                        Baker and Meridian and Crescent all use the same basic design for the early hammerless shotguns.

                        All I can say it will be a lot of work to fix. I would not want to do another.

                        Good luck to you sir.

                        irh

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                        • #14
                          kcstott
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11796

                          a few years ago I restored three shotguns. two Stevens 311's and a Stevens single shot.

                          One was mine, one was my brothers, and the single shot was my cousin's

                          My shotgun was the easiest to fix, $100 in replacement wood, some cleaning, steel wool and oil and she was fine, the others needed partial to full restoration. If I had to put a price on labor, I'd have to say each on would have been a $500-$800 job plus parts., very time consuming for a $300 gun.
                          Last edited by kcstott; 07-02-2017, 5:09 AM.

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                          • #15
                            ironhorse1
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 1004

                            Just due to the visible crack I can say there are many more within the area of the lockwork.

                            There are several holes and a bunch of inletting for the lockworks.

                            These areas are thin and brittle and I'm sure cracked inside.

                            The process to fix these problems was very time consuming.





                            irh

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