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  • TexasJackKin
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 718

    Very interesting info about lubrication

    I found this to be Very interesting info about lubrication, but then I'm a bit of a nerd about this stuff. Read the section about the Science of lubrication, and just as interesting, the history of gun lubrication, from bear grease, to sperm wale oil, to modern lubricants, including the issues with M16 (both political and mechanical) when it first went into service.

    I'm not recommending the product (it might be great stuff, but I haven't used it yet) but in the Science and History section, they don't really push their product. The section on wale oil was very interesting from a historical stand point if nothing else.

    Anyway I found it all very interesting.

    http://www.cherrybalmz.com/[/URL] (I tried to post this as a link, but it looks like you might have to copy and paste it, I'm a nerd about some things, but apparently not computers)

    The stuff they are selling is a bit spendy, I bought some, but haven't tried it yet, so I'm not recommending (might be great stuff, who knows) but the history and science part was very well done, lots of good information.
    Mike M.
    Dayton, NV
    NRA Life member
    Front Sight DG
    CRPA, USPSA, AOPA, EAA, CCW: NV, CA & AZ
    Yes, I'm related to Texas Jack
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    Mark75H
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 103

    I think the Japanese were still using whale oil in motorcycle shocks well into the 1980's. They fought against the 1972 ban for a long time.
    Last edited by Mark75H; 03-12-2017, 7:25 AM.

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    • #3
      kcstott
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2011
      • 11796

      At $17 a bottle and a teeny tiny bottle at that, I'll stick with my Turbine oil at $.64 an ounce

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      • #4
        TexasJackKin
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 718

        Originally posted by kcstott
        At $17 a bottle and a teeny tiny bottle at that, I'll stick with my Turbine oil at $.64 an ounce
        Like I said, I'm not pushing the product, but I found the history and science portion very interesting. Yup, it's spendy alright, I bought some without looking at the price, until I got home and looked at the receipt

        I decided to look on line at that point, and again just saying the history and science portion was very interesting.
        Mike M.
        Dayton, NV
        NRA Life member
        Front Sight DG
        CRPA, USPSA, AOPA, EAA, CCW: NV, CA & AZ
        Yes, I'm related to Texas Jack

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        • #5
          Garv the innocent
          RSG Minion, Senior
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Apr 2014
          • 8981

          Thanks OP.
          I used to work with tribologists, they are an interesting bunch.
          Originally posted by Kestryll:
          It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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          • #6
            geedavell
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 1819

            Originally posted by kcstott
            At $17 a bottle and a teeny tiny bottle at that, I'll stick with my Turbine oil at $.64 an ounce
            GST 68 or 32?

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            • #7
              'ol shooter
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 4646

              All these boutique lubricants are made to order by large chemical houses. You are paying a premium to the middleman who dreams up a catchy name and markets it. Some are better than others. They all contain the same base oils and solvents. Then there are the "proprietary" ingredients, which for all we know could be dog piss. The MSDS will tell you some facts, but not all of them. The proof is in the using.
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              • #8
                kcstott
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2011
                • 11796

                Originally posted by geedavell
                GST 68 or 32?
                SSL46

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                • #9
                  Pofoo
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1670

                  I've been using automatic transmission fluid for years, mostly because I had a few quarts left over after selling a leaky car. It may not be the absolute best, but it's good enough. Never had a problem using it on guns, fishing reels, door hinges, etc.

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                  • #10
                    heidad01
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 4902

                    What ol shooter said. ^^

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                    • #11
                      wpage
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 6069

                      Any oil is better than spit..
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                      • #12
                        TexasJackKin
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 718

                        OK, I didn't start this thread, because I thought we needed another thread about Lubrication, but just because I found the information about the science and History VERY interesting. Maybe not for everyone, but I thought a few of you would find it interesting.

                        The early issues with the M16, both political and mechanical, as well as some machine gun use during WW1, (10 machine guns, shooting over 100,000 rounds each in a 12 hour period, with whale oil as the lubricant)

                        I find that sort of history very interesting, and it has very little to do with the product they are selling.
                        Mike M.
                        Dayton, NV
                        NRA Life member
                        Front Sight DG
                        CRPA, USPSA, AOPA, EAA, CCW: NV, CA & AZ
                        Yes, I'm related to Texas Jack

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                        • #13
                          artb
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 1552

                          Thanks for the trip back to 1968, TexasJackKin
                          I arrived in 1968 and carried an M16 and a Colt .45.
                          I didn't like the .45, but loved my M16.
                          I had heard all the horror stories about the M15 and M16, but kept it clean daily and it never failed me.
                          The M14 was more conventional, but so heavy most (including me) preferred the M16.
                          I would love to have that automatic machine today.

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                          • #14
                            6mmintl
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 4822

                            In 69 we had the M16A1 and LSA snot lube, we tended to overlube and it was always funny to watch guys sneeze on the guy next to someone on the first shot.

                            Personally i use high temp synthetic wheel bearing (red) greese and moly on my ar's the past 33 years and no problems.

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                            • #15
                              adamjay
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1400

                              Hey OP, thanks for the link. I did very much enjoy the reading, I have researched these issues previously and I found all the info on that site fascinating. Especially liked the historical aspect. Thanks again, so much, for sharing.
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