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  • Swampcrip
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1093

    Front trunion tool in OC

    I was wondering if anyone has a front trunion tool i could borrow in OC?

    Or if someone can walk me through a non $250 way to replace my ftont trunion. Im close to just buying one of the tools but figured i would ask here first.

    Thanks to any advise.
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    Oldmandan
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 2721

    use a bolt cutter and these crimper jaws

    "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them" - Richard Henry Lee

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    • #3
      V8MERC124
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 817

      The bolt cutter system works pretty well. I did a vid series on using it. Its on the Youtubes under my same handle here.

      Btw why do you need to replace (or do you mean re-rivet) your trunnion? You almost never need to do that unless something catastrophic happened.

      Senator Leland Yee ^

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      • #4
        God Bless America
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2014
        • 5163

        Removing the front trunnion without damaging the receiver will be the problem.

        What happened?

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        • #5
          bigbob76
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 3955

          Originally posted by God Bless America
          Removing the front trunnion without damaging the receiver will be the problem.

          What happened?
          Why is that a problem? There is more to it though, like pulling the barrel so you can redo the rivets.
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          • #6
            God Bless America
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2014
            • 5163

            The swell neck rivets mean that the receiver has to be bent open a fair bit to remove the trunnion. A receiver with rails and center support intact won't be easy to bend open far enough without damage.

            The swell neck rivets are at the bottom, meaning the receiver has to bend open quite a bit.

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57118

              Originally posted by Swampcrip
              I was wondering if anyone has a front trunion tool i could borrow in OC?

              Or if someone can walk me through a non $250 way to replace my ftont trunion.
              I'd like to hear the whole story of how you got to this point.
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              • #8
                javithewrench
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1382

                I have the bolt cutters and the hyd press style. Don't forget you will also need to headspace and possibly redrill your barrel to pin it. I also have go, no-go gauges for 7.62x39. I'm in bellflower, let me know

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                • #9
                  kcstott
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Originally posted by God Bless America
                  The swell neck rivets mean that the receiver has to be bent open a fair bit to remove the trunnion. A receiver with rails and center support intact won't be easy to bend open far enough without damage.

                  The swell neck rivets are at the bottom, meaning the receiver has to bend open quite a bit.
                  WTH are you talking about??

                  to remove the trunnion and preserve the receiver is easy, Slow but easy.

                  Step 1 Pull the barrel.

                  Step 2 Center punch and drill out all rivets

                  Step 3 punch out any remnants of rivets

                  Step 4 Gently wedge o0pen the receiver with a set of pliers you only need to open it about 1/16" of an inch which is not "quite a bit"

                  Slide the trunnion out and you're done.


                  The thing I i would like to know what really going on with the rifle that make the OP think he needs to replace it.

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                  • #10
                    God Bless America
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2014
                    • 5163

                    1/16", but towards the bottom of the receiver. That's where the swell neck rivets are, and have dimpled the receiver walls inward.

                    1/16" deflection towards the bottom requires more deflection at the top. Some of the reveiver stubs I have demilled have been easier, others have been much tougher.

                    I don't know if you have been able to slide the receiver stub off a front trunnion without deforming the sheet metal, but I have not, and that's without the rest of the receiver resisting my efforts. I try to when I demil, but not too hard, as it is not that important. Maybe you have had better luck.

                    I agree as to why? My guesses are a cracked trunnion, or effed-up barrel pin.
                    Last edited by God Bless America; 01-29-2017, 9:22 AM.

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                    • #11
                      saki302
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 7187

                      Once the rivet heads are milled off, in my experience the rivets punch right through the other side if the barrel is pulled already.

                      It's going to be a major job including headspace if you replace the trunion but reuse the barrel.

                      I'd make an appointment with Randall- he can take care of all of it if you aren't able to or lack the tools.

                      -Dave

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                      • #12
                        Swampcrip
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1093

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        I'd like to hear the whole story of how you got to this point.
                        Just finishing an 80 build i started a year and half ago.
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