Licensed Armorer

[FluorideInMyWater]

i was looking at different courses for the surefire institute....

https://www.surefireinstitute.com

are there certain classes you need to take to become a licensed armeror and/or tests or do you basically need to take all courses for all different guns?

[PatC415]

Lassen College in Norcal has everything from basic gunsmith on up. You might want to give them a call. They can probably at least give you some good info.

[ar15barrels]

i was looking at different courses for the surefire institute....

https://www.surefireinstitute.com

are there certain classes you need to take to become a licensed armeror and/or tests or do you basically need to take all courses for all different guns?

There is no governmental licensing of armorers.
Armorers usually get "certifications" from the individual companies.
So if you wanted to be a Glock armorer, you take Glock's class.
If you want to be a Sig Armorer, you go to Sig etc...
All the manufacturers offer these classes, but many will only accept law enforcement/govt personnel into the classes.
The certificate gets you access to restricted parts and usually a better discount on non-restricted parts.

Then you have 3rd party providers who are training civilians who can't get into the real armorer classes because they don't already work for a governmental organization or police department.
The 3rd party providers (like surefire linked above) will teach you most of what you get in the actual armorer courses, but they will not get you access to restricted parts or discounts from the companies.

If you want to start your own business working on guns, you need a federal firearms license.
There is no test for that.
You just fill out the application, pay the fee and jump through all the hoops at the federal, state, county and city levels and if you get through all that with any skin left on your back, you get your FFL.

[hermosabeach]

OP

What is the end game? Why do you want to become an armorer?

[ar15barrels]

What is the end game? Why do you want to become an armorer?

Maybe he likes cleaning guns.

['ol shooter]

I attended a two week L.E. Armorer course at Lassen College in 1982. It was very informative, even for a civilian such as myself, and I took away a lot of good information and tricks of the trade. At that time the instructors were Bob Dunlap and Dan I don't recall his last name, Head Armorer for the C.H.P. He brought a steamer trunk full of 4" S&W 66's for us to take apart and tinker with if we did not bring a revolver. His only condition is that they be fully reassembled when we were done. A SWAT team attended the class and brought all their cool toys with them. All in all, a lot of fun and well worth it.

[MosinVirus]

I attended a two week L.E. Armorer course at Lassen College in 1982. It was very informative, even for a civilian such as myself, and I took away a lot of good information and tricks of the trade. At that time the instructors were Bob Dunlap and Dan I don't recall his last name, Head Armorer for the C.H.P. He brought a steamer trunk full of 4" S&W 66's for us to take apart and tinker with if we did not bring a revolver. His only condition is that they be fully reassembled when we were done. A SWAT team attended the class and brought all their cool toys with them. All in all, a lot of fun and well worth it.

Back in school (high school equivalent) in former USSR, we used to do timed AK field stripping and sometimes further disassembly. Shooting, proper and fast way to go prone, shooting, etc.etc.etc. For every 5 disassembled, 4 could be reassembled. Parts seem to grow legs and walk off.

Aside from that magical disappearing act, wouldn't it be nice to have firearms training in high schools here - a country with second amendment?

Basics of safety, handling, maintenance, and responsible ownership?

Then it could be cool to have armorer like courses as part of the curriculum.

... time to put out whatever I am smoking and go to work...

Another fun fact... upto a certain grade during PE we used to toss tennis balls. No one knew why, until at certain grade a tennis ball is replaced by a dummy grenade. And it all came together... fun times.

[mtenenhaus]

MV....that's fascinating

[MosinVirus]

MV....that's fascinating

No need for meanness

[jericho89]

Back in school (high school equivalent) in former USSR, we used to do timed AK field stripping and sometimes further disassembly. Shooting, proper and fast way to go prone, shooting, etc.etc.etc. For every 5 disassembled, 4 could be reassembled. Parts seem to grow legs and walk off.

Aside from that magical disappearing act, wouldn't it be nice to have firearms training in high schools here - a country with second amendment?

Basics of safety, handling, maintenance, and responsible ownership?

Then it could be cool to have armorer like courses as part of the curriculum.

... time to put out whatever I am smoking and go to work...

Another fun fact... upto a certain grade during PE we used to toss tennis balls. No one knew why, until at certain grade a tennis ball is replaced by a dummy grenade. And it all came together... fun times.

Back in the day my FIL (in new York at that) had ROTC, and the high school had a shooting team that would actually do shooting at the school shooting range. The range was an indoor range under the football bleachers. It was only 22's but they competed with other schools, learned gun safety, and basic maintenance skills.

[mtenenhaus]

Didn't mean anything more than its so different than what i might have imagined. i just found your experience to be fascinating and so very different from what i experienced growing up

[MosinVirus]

Back in the day my FIL (in new York at that) had ROTC, and the high school had a shooting team that would actually do shooting at the school shooting range. The range was an indoor range under the football bleachers. It was only 22's but they competed with other schools, learned gun safety, and basic maintenance skills.

Ours was not voluntary. I think the only responsible and sensible gun control this country needs is the sort of education we are talking about in HS.

Didn't mean anything more than its so different than what i might have imagined. i just found your experience to be fascinating and so very different from what i experienced growing up

Oh sorry. I thought you were being sarcastic.

[jericho89]

Ours was not voluntary. I think the only responsible and sensible gun control this country needs is the sort of education we are talking about in HS.
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If it were up to me every citizen in the us would be required to take a firearms safety course. An I do not mean take a test but actually handle one, shoot one, respect what it can and can not do (debunk all the movie crap our there). And I would simple make it so that if you want any government services, drivers license, right to vote you must complete the course. And then if they want to own, not own, hate guns they can freely do so with an educated mind.

['ol shooter]

Back in school (high school equivalent) in former USSR, we used to do timed AK field stripping and sometimes further disassembly. Shooting, proper and fast way to go prone, shooting, etc.etc.etc. For every 5 disassembled, 4 could be reassembled. Parts seem to grow legs and walk off.

Aside from that magical disappearing act, wouldn't it be nice to have firearms training in high schools here - a country with second amendment?

Basics of safety, handling, maintenance, and responsible ownership?

Then it could be cool to have armorer like courses as part of the curriculum.

... time to put out whatever I am smoking and go to work...

Another fun fact... upto a certain grade during PE we used to toss tennis balls. No one knew why, until at certain grade a tennis ball is replaced by a dummy grenade. And it all came together... fun times.

I find your anecdote very amusing, reminds me of some of the stories Russian comedians like Costa Gavras would tell. The Russians have a rare gift for comedy based in irony, owing no doubt to the sometimes harsh reality of life in the Soviet era.