VP9 help... Gun started falling apart!

[bjew]

Hey guys, I'm seeking help and insight regarding what happened to my BNIB VP9 that I shot for the first time today...

I bought this gun from a fellow CG member and the gun is supposed to be brand new, but now not so sure of history.

So what happened...
I shot 10 rounds at the range and noticed the right-side slide release lever (for lefty's) was protruding out, which I thought was really strange. I removed the slide to see what was wrong (Yes, I made sure there was no chambered round or loaded magazine attached first). I attempted to push the slide release lever back in and it sort of just popped back in. I thought I fixed it. Put the slide back on and shot another 10 rounds, and slide release popped back out again...

I removed the slide again and started to look to see what was going on, but this time, the trigger didn't seem to really move when I pressed it. In the process of seeing what was going on, I accidentally pull out the Disconnector. At this point i decided i should wait until I got home to try and fix this thing.

I got home and looked online for a detailed field strip because I figured maybe I'm missing a piece if things are coming apart. It looks like I'm only missing (hopefully) the "Safety Clamp". Other parts started coming out too like the TRS (Trigger Rebound Spring) and another piece I can't figure out.

So I just ordered the Saftey Clamp from HKparts.net and hopefully this will fix it.... but I will probably find a gunsmith to help me reassemble... a few additonal pieces came out while I was trying to see what was going on.


So after all my rambling... my question is, can just the Safety Clamp missing cause several parts to fall out from gently wiggling the parts? Is this a bigger problem then just replacing the Saftey Clamp? Thanks for any insight.

This is the guide I used to determine that I am missing the Safety Clamp: http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-refere...strip-vp9.html

[smoothy8500]

... a few additonal pieces came out while I was trying to see what was going on.

Oh, dear.

[357manny]

Try calling HK CS?

[Win231]

If the gun's purpose is more important than fun at the range, I'd send the gun to HK & tell them you bought it used & have them check it out completely & replace any non OEM or modified parts and test fire.

Sometimes, a back yard tinkerer thinks he's a gunsmith & tries to "customize" his gun, then screws it up, then sells it as "customized."

I saw this frequently while working in retail firearms & instruction.

[PolishMike]

You probably won't find an "HK Certified Armorer" that is trained in a VP9, not to many of them around.

I've had VP9s down to the bare frame a few times (those trigger bar springs like to break). I can knock it out for you.

[Dano3467]

^^^nice

[pluke the 2]

Hey guys, I'm seeking help and insight regarding what happened to my BNIB VP9 that I shot for the first time today...

I bought this gun from a fellow CG member and the gun is supposed to be brand new, but now not so sure of history.

So what happened...
I shot 10 rounds at the range and noticed the right-side slide release lever (for lefty's) was protruding out, which I thought was really strange. I removed the slide to see what was wrong (Yes, I made sure there was no chambered round or loaded magazine attached first). I attempted to push the slide release lever back in and it sort of just popped back in. I thought I fixed it. Put the slide back on and shot another 10 rounds, and slide release popped back out again...

I removed the slide again and started to look to see what was going on, but this time, the trigger didn't seem to really move when I pressed it. In the process of seeing what was going on, I accidentally pull out the Disconnector. At this point i decided i should wait until I got home to try and fix this thing.

I got home and looked online for a detailed field strip because I figured maybe I'm missing a piece if things are coming apart. It looks like I'm only missing (hopefully) the "Safety Clamp". Other parts started coming out too like the TRS (Trigger Rebound Spring) and another piece I can't figure out.

So I just ordered the Saftey Clamp from HKparts.net and hopefully this will fix it.... but I will probably find a gunsmith to help me reassemble... a few additonal pieces came out while I was trying to see what was going on.


So after all my rambling... my question is, can just the Safety Clamp missing cause several parts to fall out from gently wiggling the parts? Is this a bigger problem then just replacing the Saftey Clamp? Thanks for any insight.

This is the guide I used to determine that I am missing the Safety Clamp: http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-refere...strip-vp9.html

I'm leaning towards operator error. A few things from your post stand out as red flags. I'd be very careful with the rest of the gun and parts. Send it to a gunsmith, who's gtg, learn how to do basic cleaning and figure out what all parts are called and what they do.

[bjew]

I'm leaning towards operator error. A few things from your post stand out as red flags. I'd be very careful with the rest of the gun and parts. Send it to a gunsmith, who's gtg, learn how to do basic cleaning and figure out what all parts are called and what they do.

I've owned 2 HK's for several years that are on my CCW before picking up this VP9. I am very familiar with how to clean and maintain my guns. I also have never cleaned this gun as I bought it brand new PPT and my ammo just arrived so yesterday was my first time shooting it or doing anything with it for that matter. It has been sitting in the case until then. I do however need to learn what all the parts are in the gun that you usually don't mess with unless you are doing a detailed strip... The reason why those other parts came out was because after I pushed the right handed slide lever back in all the way, after replacing the slide, the trigger wouldn't depress after racking the slide. Which got me anxious and touching the parts in the gun to see if anything else might be causing it to be stuck... and then the parts coming out.

You probably won't find an "HK Certified Armorer" that is trained in a VP9, not to many of them around.

I've had VP9s down to the bare frame a few times (those trigger bar springs like to break). I can knock it out for you.

Thanks Mike, I will PM you!

If the gun's purpose is more important than fun at the range, I'd send the gun to HK & tell them you bought it used & have them check it out completely & replace any non OEM or modified parts and test fire.

Sometimes, a back yard tinkerer thinks he's a gunsmith & tries to "customize" his gun, then screws it up, then sells it as "customized."

I saw this frequently while working in retail firearms & instruction.

Well, this gun was sold to me as "BNIB". I did not see any wear on the barrel or any other part of the gun. I assume it really is brand new... however, maybe the previous owner did not realize that there was a safety clamp missing? I don't know... I'll never know, hah. I just want to get this gun back in proper condition!

[SkyHawk]

I also have never cleaned this gun as I bought it brand new PPT and my ammo just arrived so yesterday was my first time shooting it or doing anything with it for that matter.

IMO, mistake number one. I never shoot a gun that I have not disassembled, cleaned, inspected, lubed, and function tested. Ever. Not brand new guns and especially not a PPT. Better to catch a problem at home on the bench instead of the range.

You're lucky you came home with all the parts and weren't sweeping the range with a magnet looking for them, if you did bring them all home that is...

[bjew]

IMO, mistake number one. I never shoot a gun that I have not disassembled, cleaned, inspected, lubed, and function tested. Ever. Not brand new guns and especially not a PPT. Better to catch a problem at home on the bench instead of the range.

You're lucky you came home with all the parts and weren't sweeping the range with a magnet looking for them, if you did bring them all home that is...

Good to know, thanks for the advice. None of the pieces came out until I got home to inspect. Only the right hand slide lever was coming out at the range. Everything else was fine until I got home and was trying to figure out why the trigger wouldn't depress after I rack the slide, hence the tinkering with the parts and causing a couple pieces to come loose and out.