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  • gil412
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 148

    Building a 6 x 45 bolt action rifle

    Wonder if you guys (and gals) might provide some assistance. I would like to get a bolt action rifle chambered in 6x45...it appears the best course might be to have one made. Am I correct that a 223 bolt action would be the starting point and then it would require having a 'smith installing a new barrel? Any gunsmiths you might recommend?

    Thanks for the help...
  • #2
    dwalker
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 2714

    Yeap, the easiest thing do is to have a .223 rifle rebarreled in 6MMX45. I have a 6X45 AR and its a pretty sweet gun.
    Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

    Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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    • #3
      kendog4570
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2008
      • 5156

      The original idea behind that round was to get a match AR out to 600 before the 80 grainers and such were available. The bullets of the day just wouldn't cut it. I have that reamer. Built a few, a few years back. One I built for 6mmintl on a 788 Rem is an absolute laser. Very mild shooting round, VERY accurate. I would suggest an 8 twist unless you want to shoot very light bullets only.

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      • #4
        dwalker
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 2714

        Originally posted by kendog4570
        The original idea behind that round was to get a match AR out to 600 before the 80 grainers and such were available. The bullets of the day just wouldn't cut it. I have that reamer. Built a few, a few years back. One I built for 6mmintl on a 788 Rem is an absolute laser. Very mild shooting round, VERY accurate. I would suggest an 8 twist unless you want to shoot very light bullets only.
        My gun was built to shoot antelopes in Colorado and doesnt like really heavy (90+gr) bullets but 70-90grainers are lasers and put down deer sized game DRT.
        Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

        Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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        • #5
          milotrain
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 4301

          Why 6x45 over 6BR?
          weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
          frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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          • #6
            dwalker
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 2714

            Because:

            It uses .223 brass/mags etc. In an AR all you do is put a barrel on it.
            Its very efficient and uses a lot of the same powders .223 does.
            It takes advantage of the new cool 6mm bullets

            I also like the 6.5 PCC for the same reasons

            6.5 Patriot Combat Cartridge (6.5 PCC) Review I am a big fan of 6.5 mm (.264″) cartridges and the idea of a new 6.5mm wildcat for the AR15/M-16 quickly caught my attention.  Known as the 6.5 …
            Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

            Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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            • #7
              gil412
              Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 148

              Originally posted by kendog4570
              The original idea behind that round was to get a match AR out to 600 before the 80 grainers and such were available. The bullets of the day just wouldn't cut it. I have that reamer. Built a few, a few years back. One I built for 6mmintl on a 788 Rem is an absolute laser. Very mild shooting round, VERY accurate. I would suggest an 8 twist unless you want to shoot very light bullets only.
              Any suggestions on a source for barrels? A gunsmith to do the work?
              Appreciate the info from everyone!

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              • #8
                milotrain
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 4301

                Originally posted by dwalker
                Because:

                It uses .223 brass/mags etc. In an AR all you do is put a barrel on it.
                Its very efficient and uses a lot of the same powders .223 does.
                It takes advantage of the new cool 6mm bullets

                I also like the 6.5 PCC for the same reasons

                http://rifleshooter.com/2014/11/6-5-...-the-ar15m-16/
                Yeah, in an AR it makes total sense. I was wondering why build a bolt gun in 6x45.

                Originally posted by gil412
                Any suggestions on a source for barrels? A gunsmith to do the work?
                Appreciate the info from everyone!
                Kendog is a gunsmith.
                weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
                frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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                • #9
                  gil412
                  Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 148

                  Originally posted by milotrain
                  Yeah, in an AR it makes total sense. I was wondering why build a bolt gun in 6x45.



                  Kendog is a gunsmith.
                  Heck, who knows why we do the things we do with our gun interests...

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                  • #10
                    6mmintl
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 4822

                    Kerdog4570 did my 788 rem and it is extremely accurate 3/8" groups all day.

                    I used a 1x8" twist Kreiger SSTL barrel and can shoot up to 95 grain bullets out to 600 with stability/accuracy.

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                    • #11
                      liber
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 1868

                      Originally posted by milotrain
                      Why 6x45 over 6BR?
                      I agree, one of the guys in my club shoots a 6BR bolt and it's a great round.
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                      • #12
                        Switchbarrel
                        Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 475

                        Light to mid weight 6mm bullets

                        Originally posted by milotrain
                        Why 6x45 over 6BR?
                        Presuming one doesn't have bucket loads of brass @ home already...

                        If someone is on a budget, it's pretty easy to find .223
                        once-fired, fully processed brass pretty cheap. Neck up & load.
                        There's a guy on AccurateShooter selling 1K pcs. for $110/shipped pretty frequently. Usually LC, the link below is for Federal brass. The level of processing he does, it wouldn't even be worth my time to process my own.





                        A hundred Lapua 6BR cases is about $80 plus shipping. Norma is even more.




                        Don't get me wrong, make mine a Dasher, but this is the best reason for a 6mmX45 today as far as I can see.


                        OP- Benchmark, Bartlein, Brux, Krieger, Pac-Nor, Lilja, Rock Creek, Shilen, Hawk Hill, Obermeyer, Lothar-Walther, Criterion, etc., etc. Lots of good barrel makers out there. A few sources, Bruno's, Bullets.com, Bugholes.com all stock a lot of barrels (no waiting).

                        If Kens reamer has the correct freebore & neck diameter (tight-neck?) for the bullets you want to shoot, gunsmith problem solved.

                        -Rick
                        Unbiased AR15, Barnard (sold ), BAT, Borden, Browning, Kelbly, Marsh, Nesika Bay, Remington, Ruger, Savage, Ultralight Arms owner. I like 'em all.

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                        • #13
                          kendog4570
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 5156

                          Originally posted by Switchbarrel
                          ...If Kens reamer has the correct freebore & neck diameter (tight-neck?) for the bullets you want to shoot, gunsmith problem solved....
                          What numbers are you looking for? I assume by tight neck you mean .262 or thereabouts? My reamer (JGS 1048) cuts a .270" neck. .001" under 6BR Norma, and JGS print of 6 Dasher. PTG's Whitely print of 6 Dasher shows .272". Everything I have chambered with it shoots like a house afire. If it ain't broke, I ain't gonna fix it!
                          Last edited by kendog4570; 09-24-2016, 8:18 PM.

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 56893

                            Originally posted by gil412
                            Any suggestions on a source for barrels?
                            A gunsmith to do the work?
                            Appreciate the info from everyone!
                            Where are you located?
                            I am in southern California and I have built a few 6x45's as well.

                            I have one that that I built that I ended up getting back from a customer because it was bored of it and needed space in his safe.
                            It's a remington 700 action that I trued and then put a PTG bolt in it and a bartlein barrel on it.
                            It has ~350 rounds through it so it's barely broken in.
                            It's bedded into a Manners T2 stock and setup with AICS compatible bottom metal and a timney trigger.
                            Comes with brass and dies and a magazine and stock pack.
                            $1700 and it's yours.
                            Scope base, scope, rings and bipod are not included.







                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • #15
                              Sky Soldier
                              Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 115

                              You will want to talk to Randy @ R & D Precision outstanding person a wealth of knowledge and very fair priced you can got wrong his rifles are lasers.

                              R & D Precision
                              942 S. DODSWORTH AVE,
                              GLENDORA, CA 91740
                              Phone: (626) 806-4389
                              Email: rdprecision@verizon.net

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