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If 80% Beretta 92 frames were avail. would you:
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All I want people to do is do their home work, If you can't use these laws to your advantage other then exploiting them by sticking money in your pocket thats your narrow view of life.
Buddy you're a dime a dozen, No real research on the law ( oh sure you go paid legal advice from someone that can read the law and explain it but not off a solution with existing design)
The issue and how to solve it is all in the law, knowing how a firearm operates, knowing how existing straight pull bolt actions operate, and adapting a slide operated pistol to function the same. This can be done nearly free, and with less BS then a one time use $200 Part.
Then that even begs the question that you believe the law even applies to an unlicensed individual. you need to ask you attorney about how an unlicensed individual can submit his weapon to the DOJ for testing.. there is no provision, There is also no specific preclusion. Just punishments to a licensed individual if they don't follow the law, No mention to the unlicensed manufacturer.
See you can Cherry pick this stuff, you have to read the law in it's entirety to get the full intent, This law was written to stop licensed gun shops from transferring off roster handguns by the means of a SSE conversion. the law specifically address that the pistol may not be a semi auto then converted and then converted back,
But if the pistol is born a single shot there is no issue.
Since you refuse to use the search function and continue to spout that you took the advice of a paper chaser, here you go.
install the proper length barrel
install and fix in place a zero capacity mag well filler,
install a highly over weight op spring
Rack slide to rear, load one round.
If this is a 1911 based pistol the safety can be modified to lock the slide in place and still allow the weapon to fire..
92 F would be a bit different but could be made to work. also so could the sig. Thats if you care that the slide even moves. Because slide movement alone a semi auto does not make. The weapon has to reload itself.
Now all that said the weapon never has to actually function it merely need to have the capacity to function.
So you then strip it down and build to suit. your pistol was born a single shot straight pull bolt action.
Here endith the less laddygood job.
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From my cold dead end mill...Comment
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There wasn't a politically correct poll option of "Androgynous Metal".
Would love an 80% 92... steel or aluminum, I don't really care."Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake."
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I would be in for 1 in steel (SS 410 would be great) and 1 aluminum
in 7075-T6, provided that the frames and part kits can be had at a
reasonable price.**************************************************
Developer of the 6.5mm & 6.8mm Patriot Combat Cartridge .
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It is up to us to defend the US Constitution & the American Way !Comment
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would this come with the jig or would that be bought separately?best troll thread in calguns history
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=406739
burn the circus down cuz the world is full of clownsComment
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All I want people to do is do their home work, If you can't use these laws to your advantage other then exploiting them by sticking money in your pocket thats your narrow view of life.
Buddy you're a dime a dozen, No real research on the law ( oh sure you go paid legal advice from someone that can read the law and explain it but not off a solution with existing design)
The issue and how to solve it is all in the law, knowing how a firearm operates, knowing how existing straight pull bolt actions operate, and adapting a slide operated pistol to function the same. This can be done nearly free, and with less BS then a one time use $200 Part.
Then that even begs the question that you believe the law even applies to an unlicensed individual. you need to ask you attorney about how an unlicensed individual can submit his weapon to the DOJ for testing.. there is no provision, There is also no specific preclusion. Just punishments to a licensed individual if they don't follow the law, No mention to the unlicensed manufacturer.
See you can Cherry pick this stuff, you have to read the law in it's entirety to get the full intent, This law was written to stop licensed gun shops from transferring off roster handguns by the means of a SSE conversion. the law specifically address that the pistol may not be a semi auto then converted and then converted back,
But if the pistol is born a single shot there is no issue.
Since you refuse to use the search function and continue to spout that you took the advice of a paper chaser, here you go.
install the proper length barrel
install and fix in place a zero capacity mag well filler,
install a highly over weight op spring
Rack slide to rear, load one round.
If this is a 1911 based pistol the safety can be modified to lock the slide in place and still allow the weapon to fire..
92 F would be a bit different but could be made to work. also so could the sig. Thats if you care that the slide even moves. Because slide movement alone a semi auto does not make. The weapon has to reload itself.
Now all that said the weapon never has to actually function it merely need to have the capacity to function.
So you then strip it down and build to suit. your pistol was born a single shot straight pull bolt action.
Here endith the less laddy
sounds to me you are just butthurt because he beat you to it.Comment
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You are pretty dense if you think you are the only person that has read the law or thought of that option you speak of. why don't you enlighten us all and show us your build with a link to this super spring that will not let the slide move instead of ****ting on this guys idea. I personally would rather have a dedicated single shot slide that obviously meets the requirements of the law.
sounds to me you are just butthurt because he beat you to it.
You do have a grand total of 35 posts yourself.sigpic--------- liber --------
From my cold dead end mill...Comment
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You are pretty dense if you think you are the only person that has read the law or thought of that option you speak of. why don't you enlighten us all and show us your build with a link to this super spring that will not let the slide move instead of ****ting on this guys idea. I personally would rather have a dedicated single shot slide that obviously meets the requirements of the law.
sounds to me you are just butthurt because he beat you to it.
It's not my job to do your home work for you. If you want to be spoon fed well go buy a one off, one use bolt action upper,
See you may think I'm like everyone else and just want a cut of the pie. No that's not me, I'm here to make sure everyone that wants to build a home made weapon can do so as well informed as possible. I'm not here to put money in my pocket. If I was why do i have all those free prints on my site?? why did I bother to take the enormous amount of time to compile all that crap and post it on my site when i could have just said to hell with it you're on your own??
Why? because unlike a fricken worm I'm not here to exploit a situation and screw people out of money they don't need to spend.
The heavy spring is available from wolf springs. If you had any experience with testing of firearms you know all you need to do is place your thumb on the rear of the slide and press forward. it's a 9mm I can do this with a 45 so a 9mm wouldn't be an issue.Comment
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It's probably a shill post by max
See Liber you've been around here long enough to know we've hashed tis crap out, re hashed and re-re-re-re-re hashed it till we know exactly and precisely WTF we are doing when it comes to a build.
the old say a day late and a dollar short don't apply to these kids, more like three years late and $400 short.. But hey I'm just some schmuck behind a monitor what do I knowComment
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Unfortunately I see a lot of people that don't want to take the time to read and understand the law.
Too many people quoting unreliable sources, thinking they know the law. This doesn't help any of us.
We're reaching an all time low in gun rights in CA...
Mouth could learn a thing or two by using the search function.sigpic--------- liber --------
From my cold dead end mill...Comment
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I am ignoring the legal arguments... What is the practical intent? There are tons of 92FS guns and they can be had used - under $400 if you are lucky (Summit Gun Works had them for a long while). Slides are worth $200 used...
I don't understand the allure, unless to make a 92 that is unavailable here, like the Steel or Billenium. BUT - those have unique slides - I believe both have frame mounted safeties....
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I am ignoring the legal arguments... What is the practical intent? There are tons of 92FS guns and they can be had used - under $400 if you are lucky (Summit Gun Works had them for a long while). Slides are worth $200 used...
I don't understand the allure, unless to make a 92 that is unavailable here, like the Steel or Billenium. BUT - those have unique slides - I believe both have frame mounted safeties....
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