BARREL WORK

[dodgewilliams]

i want to put a barrel on a old mauser action. someone point me in the right direction.

[G-Man WC]

Location?
California is a big state.
-g

[kendog4570]

Very simple. Send it to me. Which "old mauser action"?? What caliber? The devil is in the details.

[dodgewilliams]

1895 mauser. slo county

[kcstott]

But he wants it in 375 H&H

[dodgewilliams]

nope .308

[kendog4570]

nope .308

Not recommended. Stick with cartridges that max out around 40K psi.

[Tere_Hanges]

Yeah arent 1895s small ring mausers? 308win is not recommended let alone 375 H&H, which is obviously a joke.

[Toxic Shock]

As small ring Mauser's go, the 1895 Chilean is a pretty good action. If it's in decent shape it can make up into a nice rifle, but only in calibers that are within the design limits of that type of receiver. Your best bets for rebarreling this action would be 250 Savage, 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser, 7x57 Mauser, and 300 Savage. If you handload, you can also try 257 Roberts or 8x57 Mauser, if you keep these loads mild. The action was designed for a maximum pressure of 46,000 psi and the 308 operates at around 62,000 psi. Many 1893 and 1895 actions were converted to fire a round that is dimensionaly identical to the 308, and were stamped "7.62" on the receiver, but these rounds were loaded to much lower pressure than the 308. Firing full power 308 rounds in a small ring Mauser can lead to bolt lug setback, which can cause dangerous headspace. If you stay within the pressure limitations of the action, with time and money you can make up a very nice sporting rifle.

[fguffey]

Firing full power 308 rounds in a small ring Mauser can lead to bolt lug setback, which can cause dangerous headspace. If you stay within the pressure limitations of the action, with time and money you can make up a very nice sporting rifle.

Bolt set back would be nice; with bolt set back a reloader could track the set back if that is what happens. There is a greater chance the receiver will fail and with no third lug and poor gas handling the small ring Mauser is a poor choice. The Chilean Mauser is the only small ring Mauser that has a third lug? feature, it is similar to the M1917 third lug feature.

The small ring Mauser: The outside diameter of the small ring Mauser is the same diameter as the 03 Springfield; problem, the 03 has a barrel shank that is larger in diameter than the barrel diameter of the small ring Mauser so that makes the 03 Springfield front receiver ring thinner than the small ring Mauser.

I have an 1891 Argentine Muser that is a 308 W, the barrel came from a M1917. It was given to me by an old friend, at the time he told me it was a 308 W and then I corrected him and told him it was a 7.65mm53 B.M. After I got home with the rifles I checked all of the chambers and found the 1891 had a 308 W chamber. I called to ask him what he used the rifle for. He said he used it as a loaner, when someone showed up for a hunt without a rifle he loaned them that one. I took the rifle apart and I will tell you that rifle is different and unlike any rifle I have ever seen.

Amyhow, I purchased a box of receivers and parts thinking I could get the rifle back to what it should be.

F. Guffey

[kcstott]

Well it's more of the rifle design and metal composition then diameters.

your best bet in a small ring and a load that has some thump but is still safe to shoot, is a 7x57.

from top to bottom.

.257 Roberts.
6.5x55
7x57
7.65 Argentine
8x57
.35 remington
and that about it.

40K psi is right on the money or about 47K cup

[fguffey]

Well it's more of the rifle design and metal composition then diameters.

II was thinking thicker and or thinner, Mauser had a small ring small shank, a small ring large shank, a large ring small shank and the large ring large shank. There are those that claim Springfield never saw a 98 Mauser and designed the 03 from what little they learned from the beating we took in Cuba when facing the Mauser.

F. Guffey

[dodgewilliams]

ok the action can take it. I was told by two gun smiths. the dip **** that sold me the gun before a new stuff about guns and stuff didnt know that the gun was sleeved for 308 so i bought a piece of **** gun. now that i know the action can take it. i want a barrel that will work for it. in 308

[dodgewilliams]

btw the action had been gone threw the only thing that was the week point was the barrel. thats why i shelved it.

[fguffey]

btw the action had been gone threw the only thing that was the week point was the barrel. thats why i shelved it.

The barrel was sleeved? I will assume the receiver is a Chilean Mauser, I would suggest you find a small shank barrel chambered to 7mm57, 7.65mm53 etc.

http://dutchman.rebooty.com/1895Chile.html

F. Guffey