Help me get started with a P226/229 80% Frame

[CooterShooter]

I'm a California resident (if that matters) and have really been turned on to the idea of building my own P226 or P229 from an 80% frame. I already own a P226, but it's a non-CA MK25 and I really don't want to shoot a gun I can't replace. Same goes for my M11-A1 (the fake P228) - I love it, but can't replace it when it gets worn down. This seems like the perfect solution! Also, I think I'd enjoy a firearm more if I helped make it myself.

So, here's what it looks like I need from Matrix Precision:
*Paper Weight for Sig Jig
*Drilling Jig for P229 frame
*Matrix Precision Rail cutter
*P228/P229 parts kit
*And then from SIG I'll need a complete slide.

My question is, how do I ensure this is all CA legal? Do I need a serial number? Do I need to register it with the CA DOJ?

[yari]

Look at the sticky above.

[kcstott]

Read this Home built thread

Then you'll realize whats going on whats required and what you need to do.

No that only covers the Federal side of things the state has Single shot laws that have varying degrees of opinions around here. some will say that you can't home build a pistol in this state due to the safe handgun roster and the SSE clause.. some will you can but you need to do this or that. other will say that the Roster doesn't apply to home builds because a non licensed manufacturer is not listed as being a regulated party.

All I can say is read the safe handgun law completely and read the list of exemptions and draw your own conclusions.

I will this that a slide operated weapon is the same as a bolt action.

[TATER313]

And get ready to spend some money on some tools.

[CooterShooter]

Read this Home built thread

Then you'll realize whats going on whats required and what you need to do.

No that only covers the Federal side of things the state has Single shot laws that have varying degrees of opinions around here. some will say that you can't home build a pistol in this state due to the safe handgun roster and the SSE clause.. some will you can but you need to do this or that. other will say that the Roster doesn't apply to home builds because a non licensed manufacturer is not listed as being a regulated party.

All I can say is read the safe handgun law completely and read the list of exemptions and draw your own conclusions.

I will this that a slide operated weapon is the same as a bolt action.

Thanks. So, it seems like it is perfectly legal to do, but by doing it you can could potentially get in some trouble for doing it? It certainly seems like it. I understand the pistol would need to be initially constructed in single shot form, right? After shooting it in that form, it can then be modified to function in semi-auto form, no?

If that is true, than it certainly seems perfectly legal. I do need some advice on how much extra to cut on the frame so I can bead blast and anodize the frame (a gun smith will do those two things).

[kcstott]

Thanks. So, it seems like it is perfectly legal to do, but by doing it you can could potentially get in some trouble for doing it? It certainly seems like it. I understand the pistol would need to be initially constructed in single shot form, right? After shooting it in that form, it can then be modified to function in semi-auto form, no?

If that is true, than it certainly seems perfectly legal. I do need some advice on how much extra to cut on the frame so I can bead blast and anodize the frame (a gun smith will do those two things).

There is no requirement of the firearm to ever need to fire as a single shot.

You simply complete construction as a single shot and then convert.

I'm pretty much of the opinion that the safe handgun law and SSE does not apply to the home builder for personal use as there is no mention of unlicensed manufactures. That and the whole burden of proof thing.

One thing I'd highly recommend is never going into detail on your builds. Build as you see fit and comfortable to do so following California's assault weapons laws of course. But the whole SSE thing I really believe only applies to licensed manufactures and licensed dealers for the purposes of transfer. Since there is no intent on my part to ever transfer any of my home built weapons. I have no issues.

[CooterShooter]

There is no requirement of the firearm to ever need to fire as a single shot.

You simply complete construction as a single shot and then convert.

I'm pretty much of the opinion that the safe handgun law and SSE does not apply to the home builder for personal use as there is no mention of unlicensed manufactures. That and the whole burden of proof thing.

One thing I'd highly recommend is never going into detail on your builds. Build as you see fit and comfortable to do so following California's assault weapons laws of course. But the whole SSE thing I really believe only applies to licensed manufactures and licensed dealers for the purposes of transfer. Since there is no intent on my part to ever transfer any of my home built weapons. I have no issues.

I did a little homework since my last post and it does appear you're correct.

Would this thread still be the appropriate place to answer technical questions? I'm interested in building a genuine (as near as possible, anyway) P228 and a P226. Can I use the Matrix Precision P226 Jig and buy a fully finished (and new) slide from SIG and slap that on there? If I chose to make a P229 instead of a P226 can I do the same and get a P229 slide from SIG?

[nuggethunter]

Yes to all. Call sig sales,to get best prices