80% question: Can I use another individual's mill?

[kcstott]

It's most likely that they won't even have you on their radar if you don't EVER talk about Fight Club.

so tell me who is it i could trust to loan my machine too??

Thats the problem It's my neck on the line too.

[edgerly779]

If you use others tools/ machines just don't talk on the web about it. I am not advocating this but more brig bunnies talk themselves into trouble than out of it.

[milotrain]

Yeah, I'm not risking jail to be helpful to a friend who's not willing to buy the real tools and do the work.

[kcstott]

If you use others tools/ machines just don't talk on the web about it. I am not advocating this but more brig bunnies talk themselves into trouble than out of it.

I have more of a German take on it. I'll let you use my machine but to insure you keep the secret you dig your own grave in the back yard and take one to the back of the head...

I can keep my mouth shut but others can not. again it's my neck. no thanks.

I get hit with crap like this weekly

I'm a member on Calguns, San Diego local. I was hoping you might be able to help.

I have an older, albeit new Wilson compensator that i believe is threaded at .575in x 40 (per an internet search...can't definitively confirm but several sources quote that value).

I'm building a commander in 9mm, waiting on the slide (ordered)...still not sure what length barrel to buy.

Hoping you might be able to confirm the thread pattern and mount it on the barrel (not sure what length to purchase ?5inch?). would like it to be flush with the slide with the appropriate angle, 1 degree i believe.

Wondeirng if you might offer that service and what you might charge.

thank you,

Wants me to thread a pistol barrel for him?? yeah I'll commit a felony for you sure.

And everybody wonders why I'm so sick of this crap....

you want to do this? you want to build your own damn gun then do it. buy the machines, learn how to keep your fingers attachted and do it.

[milotrain]

you want to do this? you want to build your own damn gun then do it. buy the machines, learn how to keep your fingers attachted and do it.

There isn't a bold bold enough to bold this.

[patriot_man]

Interesting. I did not realize the ATF ruling went further than the machine shop business. Must've missed it over all the posts lamenting not being able to use a CNC machine at a shop.

I have a router but it doesn't appeal to me at all and I would rather just buy a lower. It sort of seems like a half-assed way of doing it (No offense to anyone).

Guess I have a cool paperweight with Colt M4A1 government property markings lol.

[patriot_man]

I have my own jig, router and ghostgunner because I don't want to take even a small chance on breaking the law. Also, I have absolutely no legal background and have never talked to anyone who does. With that out of the way, I have read the rules many times and it keeps appearing to me that a business (and I would guess any monetary or barter transaction could be considered business) can not mill anyone else's lower without a manufacturing FFL and can't allow anyone else to use the businesses equipment. I just don't see where it is against the law for a friend to loan equipment to another friend. I don't even see what two friends can't jointly own equipment.

Question about the ghost gunner. Have you measured the dimensions of FCG pocket and pins? All within spec?

[DamMan]

The fire control pocket measured to spec with Ares Armor and Defense Distributed lowers. Others such as Tactical Machining measure OK but are off center unless the code is edited to compensate. As for the trigger pin, hammer pin, selector holes, the Ghost Gunner is just not consistent and that's where the metal jig and drill press comes in. Also, if the rear lug pocket isn't already milled in the 80% lower, the jig and router works just fine to finish that area.

[liber]

you want to do this? you want to build your own damn gun then do it. buy the machines, learn how to keep your fingers attachted and do it.

There isn't a bold bold enough to bold this.

Hear, hear!

Funny thing though, the people that are most interested in using someone else's machines are the people that are the least capable of doing the work. Funny how that works...

[patriot_man]

The fire control pocket measured to spec with Ares Armor and Defense Distributed lowers. Others such as Tactical Machining measure OK but are off center unless the code is edited to compensate. As for the trigger pin, hammer pin, selector holes, the Ghost Gunner is just not consistent and that's where the metal jig and drill press comes in. Also, if the rear lug pocket isn't already milled in the 80% lower, the jig and router works just fine to finish that area.

I've actually heard some of the 80% lowers on the markets are rejects when manufacturers find that their forging are uneven. Might pick up a Ghost gunner or do more research on a PCNC/desktop CNC.

[jericho89]

Wants me to thread a pistol barrel for him?? yeah I'll commit a felony for you sure. .

OK serious question here, why is it illegal to thread the barrel if ( and only if) they have a compensator to have pinned on? I am sure most people are not approaching you that way, but just curious about the statement.

[ar15barrels]

Funny thing though, the people that are most interested in using someone else's machines are the people that are the least capable of doing the work. Funny how that works...

Indeed...

[ar15barrels]

80% question: Can I use another individual's mill?

OK serious question here, why is it illegal to thread the barrel if ( and only if) they have a compensator to have pinned on?

It's not.

[kcstott]

Interesting. I did not realize the ATF ruling went further than the machine shop business. Must've missed it over all the posts lamenting not being able to use a CNC machine at a shop.

I have a router but it doesn't appeal to me at all and I would rather just buy a lower. It sort of seems like a half-assed way of doing it (No offense to anyone).

Guess I have a cool paperweight with Colt M4A1 government property markings lol.

And you are relying on the opinion of internet posts... READ THE LETTER FROM THE ATF.

again people doing just enough to get by... and not fully understanding what the hell is going on.

[kcstott]

OK serious question here, why is it illegal to thread the barrel if ( and only if) they have a compensator to have pinned on? I am sure most people are not approaching you that way, but just curious about the statement.

it was never mentioned that they wanted it pined. but in any event I refuse to thread a handgun barrels. and if you are dumb enough to phrase your question like that you're shown the door, simple as that. they can go screw with someone elses freedom