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  • craneman
    • Jan 2010
    • 1329

    sharing some amateur customization

    Didn't turn out too bad so far. This is my first attempt at a flat top with serrations. It still needs some clean-up with a file and I think if I ever do this again I will opt for a carbide tool. The HSS seemed to dull quicker than I thought it would.

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  • #2
    pklin1297
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 3287

    Oh how I wish I had a mill...

    Good job!
    NRA Member, CAPRC Member

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    • #3
      ThatFishGuy
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 1084

      Looks good. One day I'll have a mill too...

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      • #4
        'ol shooter
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 4646

        Nice work. Have you ever seen one fish scaled with an end mill, looks pretty cool too.
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        • #5
          craneman
          • Jan 2010
          • 1329

          Originally posted by 'ol shooter
          Nice work. Have you ever seen one fish scaled with an end mill, looks pretty cool too.
          No, but it sounds kinda cool and different.
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          Stupid people don't know they are stupid. Because they are stupid. They will follow evil geniuses and do their bidding, because they are stupid.

          Really super stupid people look up to, and follow stupid people like they were geniuses, because to them, they are. Unfortunately the reality of it is, that doesn't make stupid people any smarter.

          That right there is the root cause to most problems in the world.

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          • #6
            craneman
            • Jan 2010
            • 1329

            Originally posted by pklin1297
            Oh how I wish I had a mill...

            Good job!
            Thanks!

            Oh, and the old Bridgeport is really old and neglected. It is accurate to .001", but not any more than that. It's been abused, worked hard, and put away wet for the last 20 years or so. It could use a ton of work, but the price was right.
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            Stupid people don't know they are stupid. Because they are stupid. They will follow evil geniuses and do their bidding, because they are stupid.

            Really super stupid people look up to, and follow stupid people like they were geniuses, because to them, they are. Unfortunately the reality of it is, that doesn't make stupid people any smarter.

            That right there is the root cause to most problems in the world.

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            • #7
              MosinVirus
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              • Sep 2013
              • 5282

              Much jealousy... so much...

              Great first attempt by the way.
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              • #8
                craneman
                • Jan 2010
                • 1329

                Originally posted by MosinVirus
                Much jealousy... so much...

                Great first attempt by the way.
                I've seen your work. I am truely the one who is jealous. You Sir, have talent.
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                Stupid people don't know they are stupid. Because they are stupid. They will follow evil geniuses and do their bidding, because they are stupid.

                Really super stupid people look up to, and follow stupid people like they were geniuses, because to them, they are. Unfortunately the reality of it is, that doesn't make stupid people any smarter.

                That right there is the root cause to most problems in the world.

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                • #9
                  kcstott
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Originally posted by craneman
                  Thanks!

                  Oh, and the old Bridgeport is really old and neglected. It is accurate to .001", but not any more than that. It's been abused, worked hard, and put away wet for the last 20 years or so. It could use a ton of work, but the price was right.
                  so how accurate do you think a knee should be???
                  Last edited by kcstott; 05-08-2016, 6:48 AM.

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                  • #10
                    craneman
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1329

                    Originally posted by kcstott
                    so how accurate do you think a knee should be???
                    In all reality I was not referring to the Z axis in relation to the movement of the knee. I have not checked that. I guess I should have been more specific in my description. Basically the ways have some wear to them on X and Y in the middle of the travel, and the backlash in the lead screws is more in the middle than out at the ends. About .005" more. The spindle taper measures .0009" run-out. Pretty typical for a highly used machine would be my uneducated guess. The dials will repeat on the X and Y within a .001" (barely) in a 6" area that is NOT in the middle, and it is a bit more than .001" in the middle. There is no DRO so I have to rely on the dials. The table is not very flat. It has big dings and some gouges you have to avoid when setting something down to secure it. I am pretty sure someone used it for an anvil once, and had some wrecks and crashed a part or two by the look of it.

                    Should I go on? I have done a few more checks that I could elaborate on, but why?

                    Remember I said I was simply a hobbyist, and not a real machinist by any stretch of the imagination.


                    Back on topic. One more pic of the HAND work I did yesterday afternoon in prep for finishing.

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                    It still needs the abrasive blast done to the top, and some more final polishing. Then off to get DLC done by Ionbond.
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                    Stupid people don't know they are stupid. Because they are stupid. They will follow evil geniuses and do their bidding, because they are stupid.

                    Really super stupid people look up to, and follow stupid people like they were geniuses, because to them, they are. Unfortunately the reality of it is, that doesn't make stupid people any smarter.

                    That right there is the root cause to most problems in the world.

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                    • #11
                      ramathorn
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1652

                      Good work, looks like a fun project.

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                      • #12
                        kcstott
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11796

                        Originally posted by craneman
                        In all reality I was not referring to the Z axis in relation to the movement of the knee. I have not checked that. I guess I should have been more specific in my description. Basically the ways have some wear to them on X and Y in the middle of the travel, and the backlash in the lead screws is more in the middle than out at the ends. About .005" more. The spindle taper measures .0009" run-out. Pretty typical for a highly used machine would be my uneducated guess. The dials will repeat on the X and Y within a .001" (barely) in a 6" area that is NOT in the middle, and it is a bit more than .001" in the middle. There is no DRO so I have to rely on the dials. The table is not very flat. It has big dings and some gouges you have to avoid when setting something down to secure it. I am pretty sure someone used it for an anvil once, and had some wrecks and crashed a part or two by the look of it.

                        Should I go on? I have done a few more checks that I could elaborate on, but why?

                        Remember I said I was simply a hobbyist, and not a real machinist by any stretch of the imagination.


                        Back on topic. One more pic of the HAND work I did yesterday afternoon in prep for finishing.

                        [IMG][/IMG]

                        It still needs the abrasive blast done to the top, and some more final polishing. Then off to get DLC done by Ionbond.
                        Expecting dials to repeat any closer then .001" is wishful thinking even on a new machine.
                        You spindle runout is pretty bad. Spindle run out should be less then .0001" but what are you measuring? Wear of the collet taper interface surface or actual bearing run out?? Not critizing your measuring just pointing out the spindle might be fine you just might have wear on the taper were the collet seats.

                        FYI Bridgeport only guaranties the X&Y to be within .003"over 12" IRRC I can pull up the specs. Thats the spec we worked to on all the rebuild I've done we tried to split that down to .0015" TIR over 12" just to be safe.Problem is with the olde dove tail metal on metal ways you can only make the machine so tight of then it will not want to move. We did scrape one machine into jig bore specs. Squareness to .0005 over 12" but you were still limited by the accuracy of the lead screw for actual distance. So a good DRO is required.
                        What I'm getting at is I don't think your machine is in as bad of condition as you might think. repeateble to .001" off dial is damn good even on a old machine.

                        Table condition is another story.
                        Last edited by kcstott; 05-08-2016, 8:33 AM.

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                        • #13
                          MosinVirus
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                          • Sep 2013
                          • 5282

                          Originally posted by craneman
                          Back on topic. One more pic of the HAND work I did yesterday afternoon in prep for finishing.

                          [IMG][/IMG]

                          It still needs the abrasive blast done to the top, and some more final polishing. Then off to get DLC done by Ionbond.
                          is it going to retain polish post treatment?
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                          • #14
                            craneman
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 1329

                            Originally posted by MosinVirus
                            is it going to retain polish post treatment?
                            I hope so. They say it will. I have seen pictures that look like a VERY high end blue job except more of a black color and highly scratch resistant. We shall see. They quoted me $85 plus shipping so if it looks like crap I won't feel too bad.
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                            Stupid people don't know they are stupid. Because they are stupid. They will follow evil geniuses and do their bidding, because they are stupid.

                            Really super stupid people look up to, and follow stupid people like they were geniuses, because to them, they are. Unfortunately the reality of it is, that doesn't make stupid people any smarter.

                            That right there is the root cause to most problems in the world.

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                            • #15
                              kcstott
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 11796

                              Originally posted by MosinVirus
                              is it going to retain polish post treatment?
                              If it's PVD and if it was polished in acordence with their procedure sure it will be as polished as it started.

                              Problem is PVD requires an extreamly clean surface, contamination free.

                              There is nothing that can be done in the average garage that would romotely comply. the base metal needs to be sterile clean and free of any embedded compounds.

                              Keep in mind this is just me talking about my experience with PVD coatings in general. The DLC stuff may be completely different and far more forgiving.

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