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[78marz]

Nice

[pterrell]

They look great! I'd love to build one myself but can't find the kits in stock except where they're being sold for $1000

[pterrell]

I see. What did you use to finish the slide? One of the many jigs or do you have acess to a mill?

[pterrell]

The slide came finished from Palmetto. All I had to do was paint it.

Guess the coffee hasn't kicked in quite yet. Meant the frame lol

[pterrell]

Sounds like a god-awful amount of elbow grease! lol

[Whiskey_Tango]

Nice. Were the mainspring and trigger from Sarco usable? I couldn't get them to work for me and ended up replacing them with WC parts. I have another TM frame layin around, just haven't settled how I will make it SSE2 without the Limited 10 break top.

[kcstott]

Nice builds but to think that anything is drop in on a 1911 is a joke.

for $150 to $200 being a cast frame i'm going to expect irregularities. There is a reason other 80% frames are double the cost.

People are just to use to and AR being ready to roll out of the box.

Nice builds though

[pterrell]

Nice builds but to think that anything is drop in on a 1911 is a joke.

for $150 to $200 being a cast frame i'm going to expect irregularities. There is a reason other 80% frames are double the cost.

People are just to use to and AR being ready to roll out of the box.

Nice builds though

I've always read that there is a lot of hand fitting and filing small bits away to get it to run like a machine, but do you recommend a frame that is more often in spec than others?

[Spyder]

It seems to me like the people who measured the frames against blueprints are unhappy they're not "in spec"...

Those of us who just went to work making parts fit, love them.

[kcstott]

I've always read that there is a lot of hand fitting and filing small bits away to get it to run like a machine, but do you recommend a frame that is more often in spec than others?

I recommend buying the best you can afford.

I'm a bit of a TM fan boy though... they held true to their word when others were raping people just because they could.

If another company can produce a more finished and refined frame by all means use it if you like. I personally don't mind removing metal to bring it into spec. I'd rather have to file it off then weld it back up.

No my thing is i seen far to many bar reviews on 80% frams from TM they did have their issues with some bad casting and dimensions. As far as i know that situation has been taken care of and Nathan has been very cooperative on the board keeping everyone informed as to the progress of each run and availability of parts.

I can't say enough about the customer service. we have had some very aggressive vendors here pushing their 80% part right down your throat. That's one thing i do not tolerate. Let you work and your product speak for it self.

[kcstott]

Keep in mind a Mil spec 1911 is built to 1906 specs.... the weapons we have today are a far cry from the pistols my grandfather took into France on a glider.

Also keep in mind the AR was designed by a former aerospace engineer and the 1911 was designed by a Mormon farm boy that was pretty much self taught.

What I'm getting at is it's kinda like the Mosin Nagant. It is what it is. and if you want an In spec pistol well it's going to a loose and rough as a cobb.

If you want something that is what we as consumers expect from a factory pistol even a Rock Island well there is a given amount of elbow grease that need to be applied to that frame to get it there.

The AR is a bolt together weapon. Snap tite kit super simple and very modular. the 1911 is not. the 1911 was a Hand Built pistol and Colt still builds them that way. With all the refinements of manufacturing and CNC machines being in every damn shop around yeah fit and finish is far better then it was in 1947.

That said you and everyone else bought a part that was unfinished. I just think that machining the rails, drilling a few holes, assembling it and calling it good is a bit much to ask.

its a 1911 it needs had fitting, it needs filing, polishing, checkering, to be perfect.

No matter what you bolt on to an AR it's still an AR. No better then the sum of the part. and there are some damn nice AR's out there. But a hand crafted 1911 well that's just it, it's hand crafted. It's as good as you can make it.

There are guys here that can give Wilson Combat and LesBaer a run for their money. You take an AR and strip off all the mall ninja junk, the Noveski this or the DD that and it's nothing more then a forged lower or a billet a $100 part anyday of the week with a FCG pocket milled in it. that's it. IT'S JUST AN AR.. A 1911 requires hand fitting and you can't just take a well fitted slide and expect it to drop on any other frame. not unless you loosen the hell out of it.

[jericho89]

Was talking to them at a gun show and they were saying that their 1911 frames are not cast. so I would think less potential for irregularities in the base material to begin with and it is just up to the machine that is milling it out.

[FreshTapCoke]

I get the filing down to fit aspect of a 1911 build. I thoroughly enjoyed cutting the rails and fitting the slide, but the standardization of parts is more like .308 AR's than AR-15's.
The mainspring housing I purchased was labeled for 5" government size frames, but there's easily 1mm of gap when trying to install it. No amount of filing will make that fit.

[pklin1297]

Put some rounds on those nice clean targets so we can see what these can do.