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  • DSB
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1005

    My Alterations to Smith & Alexander Magwell and Mainspring Housing

    I have a Smith & Alexander one piece Mainspring Housing / Slimline Magwell that I've always had one problem with.



    I have always disliked how the checkering runs the engire back length of the mainspring housing. The image above is a photo from Brownells, where I bought the MSH. I didn't think to take photos before and during, so you'll be limited to my "after" photos, below. The photos below are mine, after I did the alterations. Note that this is purely a cosmetic improvement -- I just did not like the way it looked with the full length checkering.

    So today I decided to fix the problem. I put the magwell in my vise, and began to file with a cheap set of diamond files.

    I first took a permanent marker, and colored the section I wanted to file.

    Next, I used a triangle needle file to set a limit line for where the checkering should stop. I did all of this free hand, but I worked very slowly to try and avoid mistakes.

    Next I used a flat file followed by a round file to take down the checkering I wanted to remove. The hardest part was making the rear of the magwell rounded, as opposed to flattening it.

    Next, I took out the scratches with some gray Scotchbrite. I followed the Scotchbrite with some 2000 grit sandpaper. I did all of the sanding dry.

    When I was satisfied that the scratches were smoothed out, I polished the bottom with my Dremel tool and some polishing compound. The result turned out better than I had hoped for. It's not perfect, but I was really happy with the result. This is my first attempt at metal work. Here is the finished product, with my improvements:









    Last edited by DSB; 03-13-2016, 9:04 AM.
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    mtenenhaus
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    • Jul 2007
    • 3416

    that looks so much better.....nice job

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    • #3
      MosinVirus
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      • Sep 2013
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      That looks great. Have you ever considered going for roundbutt?
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        DSB
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        • Oct 2011
        • 1005

        Originally posted by MosinVirus
        That looks great. Have you ever considered going for roundbutt?
        Thank you. At the risk of this turning into another kind of thread, what is "roundbutt?"

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          MosinVirus
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          • Sep 2013
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          I also used the S&A magwell MSH, and filed the back edge off, to create a round butt (WC magwells have that).

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            DSB
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1005

            Originally posted by MosinVirus
            I also used the S&A magwell MSH, and filed the back edge off, to create a round butt (WC magwells have that).

            Nice pistol -- you always do such nice work, MV!

            Other than fitting the MSH/magwell to the frame, and sending it out to cerakote to match the rest of the gun it's going on, I think I'm going to leave well enough alone. I was pretty happy with the way this came out, and I'm afraid if I start tinkering too much, I may regret more changes at some point.

            Next step is making sure everything fits the gun properly.

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              MosinVirus
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              Oh, yours was already finished... I understand not wanting to touch the frame in that case. Post a pic when it is all ready.
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                DSB
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                • Oct 2011
                • 1005

                Originally posted by mtenenhaus
                that looks so much better.....nice job
                Thank you!

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                  Memphys
                  Member
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 253

                  Originally posted by MosinVirus
                  I also used the S&A magwell MSH, and filed the back edge off, to create a round butt (WC magwells have that).



                  Of course i'd find your name when looking for 1911 stuff on google.

                  Question about these magwells. I like that round butt style, is the one you have in your picture finished with anything more than filing or sanding? Forgive my noobness! And if i wanted to get this feature should I go with WC? I'm working with a SA Loaded in SS would fitting be an issue? I hear SA uses S&A magwells when doing their custom stuff.

                  Good seeing you on Saturday at Angeles!


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                    MosinVirus
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                    Originally posted by Memphys
                    Of course i'd find your name when looking for 1911 stuff on google.

                    Question about these magwells. I like that round butt style, is the one you have in your picture finished with anything more than filing or sanding? Forgive my noobness! And if i wanted to get this feature should I go with WC? I'm working with a SA Loaded in SS would fitting be an issue? I hear SA uses S&A magwells when doing their custom stuff.

                    Good seeing you on Saturday at Angeles!


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                    Good seeing you too.

                    When fitting a new magwell, first see if the holes align, then see if the wings are flat on the bottom of the frame or if they are hanging off. Then see if the magwell is loose in the MSH rails in the frame. Corrections may be needed.

                    Then you can profile the rear to be a round butt.
                    And then you can blend the funnel section of the magwell and frame together.

                    The gun in the picture above was finished using the Melonite process. That picture was the before finish shot. It was black in the end.

                    Your Loaded may have an ILS MSH. if that is the case you will also need to get the MSH refill kit with standard parts (Hammer or Main spring, both end caps, and the spring retaining pin.)
                    Last edited by MosinVirus; 03-27-2017, 4:06 PM.
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                      Memphys
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                      • Jun 2016
                      • 253

                      Originally posted by MosinVirus
                      Good seeing you too.

                      When fitting a new magwell, first see if the holes align, then see if the wings are flat on the bottom of the frame or if they are hanging off. Then see if the magwell is loose in the MSH rails in the frame. Corrections may be needed.

                      Then you can profile the rear to be a round butt.
                      And then you can blend the funnel section of the magwell and frame together.

                      The gun in the picture above was finished using the Melonite process. That picture was the before finish shot. It was black in the end.

                      Your Loaded may have an ILS MSH. if that is the case you will also need to get the MSH refill kit with standard parts (Hammer or Main spring, both end caps, and the spring retaining pin.)


                      This is my shopping list so far. Is there anything I should not get or something I should also pick up while i'm at it?




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                        MosinVirus
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                        • Sep 2013
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                        If your gun currently has GI guide rod, you will need a different spring plug for the 1 piece FLGR you are buying. If the gun is .45 acp, the mainspring is lighter than you want it to be, and you don't need all those pins, especially the 2011 MSH pin.
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                          Memphys
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                          • Jun 2016
                          • 253

                          My Alterations to Smith & Alexander Magwell and Mainspring Housing

                          Originally posted by MosinVirus
                          If your gun currently has GI guide rod, you will need a different spring plug for the 1 piece FLGR you are buying. If the gun is .45 acp, the mainspring is lighter than you want it to be, and you don't need all those pins, especially the 2011 MSH pin.


                          It doesn't currently have the GI Rod, i'll add the plug. Yes it's in 45, for the main spring what lbs do you recommend. I'll nix the kit and get specific parts for the msh.

                          Thank you again, you're a legend!


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                            JaeFern
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                            • May 2006
                            • 1796

                            Originally posted by Memphys
                            It doesn't currently have the GI Rod, i'll add the plug. Yes it's in 45, for the main spring what lbs do you recommend. I'll nix the kit and get specific parts for the msh.

                            Thank you again, you're a legend!


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                            Standard main spring weight on government 1911s is 23 lbs

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                              MosinVirus
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                              This ^^^
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