Assembly Bill 1673

[pklin1297]

This would pertain to us home-builders:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/15-16/bill/asm/ab_1651-1700/ab_1673_bill_20160119_introduced.pdf

This bill seeks to amend Section 16520 of the Penal Code, specifically part (b) to read:

"(b)**As used in the following provisions, “firearm” includes the finished frame or receiver of the weapon weapon, or the unfinished frame or receiver of a weapon that can be readily converted to the functional condition of a finished frame or receiver:"

The hearing on this Bill and subsequent vote was postponed this past Tuesday. If passed, in my mind, 80% frames/receivers would cease to exist for us Californians, given what the politicians are trying to do ultimately with classifying them as firearms/handguns (think "safe handgun" roster)...

This, in addition to Assembly Bills 1663, 1664, and 1674 (which already passed Assembly Committee on Public Safety this past Tuesday and moving on to Appropriations) is quickly stripping away what little remains of Gun Rights in this silly State...

[MosinVirus]

Also 1446 or whatever that our 30MagazineClipInHalfASecond guy just brought up.

[pklin1297]

Time for the mad rush to get as many 80% frames/receivers as possible...

[tonym1]

In my opinion readily convertable would be polymer 80's not aluminum but eathier way its bull!

[pklin1297]

In my opinion readily convertable would be polymer 80's not aluminum but eathier way its bull!

It is bull...

By the way, Polymer frames/receivers require the same type of steps and similar types of tools to convert to 100%... They are targeting 80% frames/receivers of any material by not specifying it.

[MosinVirus]

They are targeting all non-100% by how vague that bill is.

[tonym1]

My question is would the 80's legally obtained prior to this bill (if it passes) would be grandfathered and how would the state know unless people engraved the date of manufacture and what would stop some one from back dating. Do they plan on make a **** ton of law abiding people felons? I want out of this state! And how do you reclassify a hunk of material a firearm when the atf states that it is not.

[Bainter1212]

I don't know how in the hell they will be able to identify what is or isn't "readily convertible". We would need a test case but it seems like this one would be a no brainer to challenge in court.

[jericho89]

My question is would the 80's legally obtained prior to this bill (if it passes) would be grandfathered.

probably not, they are still reeling from the magazines grandfathered in and they will not make that mistake again

how would the state know unless people engraved the date of manufacture and what would stop some one from back dating.

Ask the fine people of Colorado about their magazines... If I remember correctly (and please correct me if I am wrong) they had to not only date them but serialize them)

Do they plan on make a **** ton of law abiding people felons?

Are you new to the CA anti-gun lobbies... Yes they will. Look at SF, Sunnyvale, and LA who can no longer own a magazine larger than 10 rounds, and add to that SF where you can no longer have hollow point ammo either. (that includes driving through the city)

And how do you reclassify a hunk of material a firearm when the atf states that it is not.

Ask any of these manufacturers of 80% ar receivers that were approved by the ATF then they were later deemed as firearms because they had location holes marked. How can an AR that the ATF deems as a sporting rifle in other states be deemed an assault weapon in CA. CA law makers and the courts do not care what the feds think, they just make it up as they go along. The sad thing is that other states and Democratic presidential hopefuls look at CA gun laws and use them as a stepping store for their own agenda.

[kcstott]

I don't know how in the hell they will be able to identify what is or isn't "readily convertible". We would need a test case but it seems like this one would be a no brainer to challenge in court.

They can't and that the problem

[MosinVirus]

How can an AR that the ATF deems as a sporting rifle in other states be deemed an assault weapon in CA. CA law makers and the courts do not care what the feds think, they just make it up as they go along. The sad thing is that other states and Democratic presidential hopefuls look at CA gun laws and use them as a stepping store for their own agenda.

While many of us know what AR stands for, many CA anti-gun residents/politicians/news people and even some gun owners (wouldn't surprise me) believe it stands for A-ssault R-ifle. So, I say since we are making up names, we should all start calling it the A-merican R-ifle.

[aerodan]

Honest question, are there ANY pro gun assembly members that introduce AB's supporting gun rights? Every time one of these idiotic ABs gets proposed there should be an anti-AB to cancel it. I probably need a California civics lesson but I feel the need to inquire about mutually assured AB destruction.

[ModulusArms]

Reading those bills makes me sick. That is basically stripping any rifle that is anything but bolt action. The bill related to receivers that can be easily converted is a joke. It is so wide and broad it could mean anything. A person with a file, a block of aluminum and enough time to make a firearm. Does that mean we ban blocks of material? CA is ridiculous. 10 years from now guns will be outright banned.

[baih777]

we need a squirt gun upper. then its a toy ?

[kcstott]

Honest question, are there ANY pro gun assembly members that introduce AB's supporting gun rights? Every time one of these idiotic ABs gets proposed there should be an anti-AB to cancel it. I probably need a California civics lesson but I feel the need to inquire about mutually assured AB destruction.

Stuff was tried at the federal level but as always it's so poorly written that it's either is toothless or will not make it to law.

No progun bill will pass in California until we get the whack jobs out of the assembly. I just don't know who these idiots get reelected