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  • herman
    Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 446

    1911 frame...

    I just received one of these 1911 frames from tactical machine. There seems to be some differences from side to side. The hammer area is .012 off from each other, magazine slot is .009 off, dust cover is.008 off... You guys have any experience with this? I know this happened in the past but thought it was fixed.
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    ar15barrels
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      MosinVirus
      Happily Infected
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2013
      • 5282

      Also measure the deck height. And check the alignment of ejector front leg hole to disconnector hole. Specifically, check if the ejector retaining cross pin hole is not drilled through the disconnector opening.
      Hobbies: bla, bla, bla... Bought a Mosin Nagant... Guns, Guns, Guns...

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        nagzul
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 665

        I did 2 of those frames, If I had to do it over today I would be picking a different frame. Its just not worth the headache.
        I believe the main "fix" was the grip safety area. If yours appears to be good, you got one of the "new and improved" ones. Think hard before putting alot of time, work, and parts into it if it doesnt meet the standards you want.
        Best wishes on your build.
        A day may come when the will of man fails, but it is not this day.

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        • #5
          MosinVirus
          Happily Infected
          CGN Contributor
          • Sep 2013
          • 5282

          Originally posted by nagzul
          I did 2 of those frames, If I had to do it over today I would be picking a different frame. Its just not worth the headache.
          I believe the main "fix" was the grip safety area. If yours appears to be good, you got one of the "new and improved" ones. Think hard before putting alot of time, work, and parts into it if it doesnt meet the standards you want.
          Best wishes on your build.
          I peened the edge on mine toward the inside to close up the gap a little. The new frames are better in that respect, bit they still seem to have problems with centering their openings/slots.
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            herman
            Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 446

            The 1911 builder frame I'm working on now is all matching..The only reason I ordered this TM frame was because it was supposed to be the "new fixed frame" apparently they are not or you have to get lucky to get a decent one. I'll be sending this back and ordering the 1911 builders frame. Thanks for your input guys.

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            • #7
              tr6guns
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 644

              Say What, how do you know that, QUOTE (The 1911 builder frame I'm working on now is all matching). If you haven't ordered it yet?

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              • #8
                herman
                Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 446

                Originally posted by tr6guns
                Say What, how do you know that, QUOTE (The 1911 builder frame I'm working on now is all matching). If you haven't ordered it yet?
                I'm sure you have a wife or significant other you can go pick a fight with, I'm not it. Go people police someone else. I'm already working on a 1911 builders frame now and want a few more. Thought I'd try the TM frame due to the rail, and some reviews saying they were fixed.

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                • #9
                  Powder_Keg
                  Senior Member
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2203

                  Originally posted by herman
                  I'm sure you have a wife or significant other you can go pick a fight with, I'm not it. Go people police someone else.


                  OP, good luck with the builds. Post up pics if you get a chance. After seeing Mosin Virus's thread, I'm getting inspired to do an 80% 1911 too.

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                  • #10
                    tacticalmachining
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 29

                    Originally posted by herman
                    There seems to be some differences from side to side. The hammer area is .012 off from each other, magazine slot is .009 off, dust cover is.008 off... You guys have any experience with this? I know this happened in the past but thought it was fixed.
                    What happened in the past was far more exaggerated than that. The grip safety area was severely chewed up as well. Some were coming out with the ejector cross hole pin not drilled correctly as well in the VERY early runs.

                    Unless you're working from a forging or billet, there likely will be some side to side variation. Castings aren't perfect unfortunately. What those translate to are .006, .0045 and .004 off center from each other. Roughly 1-2 pieces of paper of thickness.

                    They're definitely far better than they were, but the design of the casting doesn't allow machining in those areas at all, or very little... which is why we are working with a new casting company and a new casting. It allows machining on all areas except the magazine well.

                    Feel free to send anything you don't like back, if you aren't happy. We aren't happy. We absolutely can not hold .001-.002 on every part on these castings, we don't have enough control over them. Hopefully in the future the new casting house will prove it's worth.

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                    • #11
                      derringer
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 2

                      The grip safty area is one of the ugly thing on this frame.It made me really headache.
                      It took me all day using spot welding and TIG try to mend it.20150418_170639s.jpg

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