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  • Calgunner0503
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 10

    Bolt carrier group won't go back

    Hey guys, new to Calguns.

    I'm working on an AR build currently and with my upper receiver in place, I cannot for the life of me make the bcg clear the ejection port. I can pull on the charging handle enough to make the bcg go back about 3/4 of the way, but it will not go all the way back. That being said, I can't lock the bolt back or chamber a round(when the time comes).

    Here is my list of parts:
    -80percentarms 7075 aluminum lower
    -Palmetto State takedown pins/bolt catch/selector/buffer tube assembly
    -Hiperfire Hipertouch EDT using the 4 1/2lb spring
    -Mission first tactical pistol grip
    -Mission First Tactical Minimalist stock
    -Surplus Ammo and Arms 7075 stripped upper
    -Surplus Ammo and Arms nitride BCG
    -Surplus Ammo and Arms charging handle
    -Primary Arms 16" mid-length barrel 1/7 twist, SOCOM contour
    -Daniel Defense mid-length gas tube
    -SLR Rifleworks adjustable gas block
    -SLR Rifleworks 15" SOLO series MLOK handguard
    -1/2x28 muzzle brake [forgot brand(sorry)]

    Any help is really appreciated, I can try to post pictures if it helps.
  • #2
    LeadFarmer74
    Veteran Member
    • May 2015
    • 3105

    Upper receiver works when it is not on the lower? Does the bcg move freely when the upper is off the lower? Does the buffer and spring move freely?
    NRA Lifer
    Originally posted by Click Boom
    I know your ban hammer is cold hammer forged and chrome lined, im not messin with it!

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    • #3
      Calgunner0503
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 10

      Upper works just fine when the receivers are separated. Charging handle and bcg move in and out perfectly. It's seems like the buffer and spring move fine too. I don't have problems joining the receivers either. It feels like I'm catching on something, but I can't tell what it is.

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      • #4
        LeadFarmer74
        Veteran Member
        • May 2015
        • 3105

        Pictures would help at this point. You can push the buffer and spring all the way in?
        NRA Lifer
        Originally posted by Click Boom
        I know your ban hammer is cold hammer forged and chrome lined, im not messin with it!

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        • #5
          Pardini
          Senior Member
          • May 2014
          • 1204

          Charging handle is catching on the end plate.
          Originally Posted by OCEquestrian View Post
          Excellent! I am thinking about it as well and I only have 4 points and an unfortunate "match bump" up to expert classification where I am far less "competitive" with my peers there.

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          • #6
            strongpoint
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 3115

            You're not using a rifle buffer and/or spring in a carbine buffer tube, are you?
            .

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            • #7
              Jon Road King
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 926

              With the receiver off, does the hammer lock back?

              Sometimes those 80% jobs don't get the front corners of the fire control pocket machined far enough forward and the hammer won't cock, which drags on the BCG.
              "Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake."

              --- Napoleon

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              • #8
                Calgunner0503
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 10

                Sorry, don't really know how to reply to individual posts.

                My charging handle clears the receiver end plate with ease.

                I'm using a carbine buffer and carbine buffer spring in a milspec carbine buffer tube

                My hammer locks back with the upper on and off.

                I'm stumped.

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                • #9
                  Bishop98
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 63

                  Originally posted by Calgunner0503
                  Sorry, don't really know how to reply to individual posts.

                  My charging handle clears the receiver end plate with ease.

                  I'm using a carbine buffer and carbine buffer spring in a milspec carbine buffer tube

                  My hammer locks back with the upper on and off.

                  I'm stumped.
                  Use the Quote+ button on the posts you wish to answer.

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                  • #10
                    Calgunner0503
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 10

                    Originally posted by Bishop98
                    Use the Quote+ button on the posts you wish to answer.
                    Thank you.

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                    • #11
                      baih777
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 5680

                      you need to take it apart and look for the shiny spot .
                      Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                      I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                      I'm Back.

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                      • #12
                        xfer42
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 709

                        Originally posted by strongpoint
                        You're not using a rifle buffer and/or spring in a carbine buffer tube, are you?
                        My money is on this ^

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                        • #13
                          baih777
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 5680

                          if no marks, post the length of your buffer and spring.
                          sounds like wrong spring.
                          Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                          I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                          I'm Back.

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                          • #14
                            Calgunner0503
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 10

                            Originally posted by baih777
                            if no marks, post the length of your buffer and spring.
                            sounds like wrong spring.
                            Buffer spring is 10 3/4" long
                            Buffer is 3 1/4" long

                            It was advertised as carbine buffer and buffer spring. Did I receive something wrong??

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                            • #15
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57172

                              This type of troubleshooting is best done in person.
                              The problem will be very easy to see when someone knowledgeable looks at it.
                              Since everyone else is just guessing, I am going to guess that the bore of the upper is not inline with the buffer tube and that the bolt carrier is striking the edge of the buffer tube.
                              Last edited by ar15barrels; 01-19-2016, 7:56 PM.
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