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  • CASEC
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 884

    Need a simple blueprint made

    I need a blueprint or CAD of an 1888 Commission Rifle Ejector made. Any ideas? PM me if you can. THX!
    A Lawyer, but not your lawyer unless you have a signed retainer agreement.
  • #2
    thomashoward
    In Memoriam
    • Jan 2009
    • 1991

    Try Kinko's never mind
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    • #3
      hi5
      Senior Member
      • May 2013
      • 563

      Do you have one and just need a drawing (and dimensions) made of it?

      Where are you located?

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57144

        Originally posted by thomashoward
        Try Kinko's
        LOL.
        Randall Rausch

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        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
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        • #5
          thomashoward
          In Memoriam
          • Jan 2009
          • 1991

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          LOL.
          I guess they are gone or merged. I don't keep up
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          • #6
            prod39
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 954

            Kinkos was taken over by fedex

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            • #7
              sonofeugene
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 4531

              Two ways to do it.

              One, you have an original or accurate drawing of the part and simply copy it.

              Two, you have an original part and need to make a drawing from it. I'm sure you're talking about this. So....

              Depending upon the complexity of the part, you will need caliper, micrometer, and possibly a set of pin gauges to take measurements with. And a CAD system to recreate the part in 3D which can then be turned into a 2D drawing. Since the part likely has angles and they need to be accurately measured, you'll need some sort of optical measuring system like a MicroVu. I have all that available but likely don't have the time to do it.

              Also keep in mind that the part you're trying to document is very likely pretty well worn so that any recreation will be of a worn part with geometry and dimensions off to one degree or another. The very best way would be to also have available the parts that the ejector fit into. By also measuring those parts, a more accurate assessment of the original part and it's original design intent can be made.

              In the end, some fine tuning will be required to make the part work. This is where craftsmanship comes into play.

              Good luck!

              Oh, and post a photo of the part and a photo of the part installed.
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              • #8
                milotrain
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 4301

                eugene's kid is spot on
                weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
                frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57144

                  Originally posted by thomashoward
                  I guess they are gone or merged. I don't keep up
                  Neither Kinkos or Fedex will make a blueprint or CAD model from a part.
                  That takes a 3d scanner or a person to measure and draw the part.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57144

                    I bet this guy could help:
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57144

                      Originally posted by sonofeugene
                      post a photo of the part and a photo of the part installed.
                      Ejector is shown removed here:





                      That's a controlled feed bolt head, but I think the normal push feed ejector works the same way.
                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                      • #12
                        lairdb
                        Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 158

                        Originally posted by sonofeugene
                        Two ways to do it.
                        [...]
                        This, all of it, precisely. Also, clearly from the answer, sonofeugene knows about 6E+42 times about this than I ever will. Having said that, it also sortof depends on how precise it needs to be to work, and to whom you're supplying it, for what.

                        Because I'd much rather be doing pointless CalGuns fiddling rather than my real job, plus I don't mind the practice at a new CAD system I'm fiddling with, this took me about a half hour to throw together, purely by eyeball from the photo:


                        That's currently a solid model, and (except for the fact that I guessed at every single dimension and angle) would be sendable to a 3D printer now.

                        Turning that into a mechanical drawing is an exercise in clicking the drawing button, and then adding about 6 jillion dimension, angle, surface finish, and treatment notes.



                        All that said, if you just need one, grab a piece of steel and a set of files.
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                        • #13
                          sonofeugene
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 4531

                          'Might be a good candidate for the laser sintering process.
                          Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

                          A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

                          Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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                          • #14
                            bridgeport
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 782

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                            • #15
                              kcstott
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 11796

                              The one he sent me don't have the clover leaf on it.

                              In any event If the market was there I'd say MIM, Yeah everyone seems to think that stuff is junk but it all come down to what you put in the mold.

                              CASEC I got the part safe and sound it's in a zip lock bag with the note on my desk. I won't loose that little bugger

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