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  • WAMO556
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1164

    5.45x39 BRASS

    CalGuns members,

    I am researching whether I should invest heavily into purchasing the equipment to manufacture 5.45x39mm brass (not ammo, just the brass).

    This has been an ongoing project for me and I am now researching market viability. Not to worry, this is just one avenue that I am looking at.

    Anyways, please respond below.

    Thank you
  • #2
    Ak74dude
    Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 250

    I dont think you can find brass for 5.45 man. I think most people reshape .222 cases.

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    • #3
      WAMO556
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1164

      There is one company that re manufactures brass from another caliber which charges almost $3.00 a round.

      Sacrilege!!!!!!

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      • #4
        WAMO556
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 1164

        Originally posted by Ak74dude
        I dont think you can find brass for 5.45 man. I think most people reshape .222 cases.
        I am talking about MANUFACTURING 5.45x39 brass.

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        • #5
          Wes C Addle
          Banned
          • Apr 2015
          • 1867

          how much would something like that cost? personally, i don't reload and would probably not get into it, would just buy more 5.45 ammo. to be competitive in the market, your prices would have to be on par with current 5.45 ammo prices.

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          • #6
            tujungatoes
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2006
            • 7942

            Originally posted by Wes C Addle
            to be competitive in the market, your prices would have to be on par with current 5.45 ammo prices.
            Hardly. Seeing as how reloadable 5.45x39 is non existent you could charge quite a bit for it. Currently the only option is to cut down and reform .222rem casings which aren't cheap and it's a relatively laborious process. I'd be a happy camper if I could get purpose made brass for less than 50 cents a piece.
            sigpic
            Originally posted by Dr. Elky
            If your a man who wears white sunglasses, your probably a douche bag
            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
            I've been know to cross dress and go the other way at certain events.

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            • #7
              kcstott
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2011
              • 11796

              Originally posted by WAMO556
              I am talking about MANUFACTURING 5.45x39 brass.
              Once you look at the cost of a 200 ton punch press and a deep draw die I think you will figure you it's not worth it.

              Not to mention the dies and don't mean reloading dies I mean a progressive die mounted in a die shoe.

              Then you'll need a operator and a toolmaker to maintain it.

              your best bet would be to get a die made and have an existing shop run the parts for you.

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              • #8
                saltcreep
                Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 193

                Or...you can reload steel cases using this: http://products.russianreloads.com/p...-545-x-39.html

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                • #9
                  VegasND
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 8621

                  Unless there were definite buyers committed to taking sufficient numbers of cases I'd think your venture wouln't be likely to succeed.
                  People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
                  --River Tam

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                  • #10
                    sl0re10
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7242

                    Originally posted by WAMO556
                    CalGuns members,

                    I am researching whether I should invest heavily into purchasing the equipment to manufacture 5.45x39mm brass (not ammo, just the brass).

                    This has been an ongoing project for me and I am now researching market viability. Not to worry, this is just one avenue that I am looking at.

                    Anyways, please respond below.

                    Thank you
                    Think it would help to know how much you think you could sell the product for (and make a "be happy with the return").

                    People could make the decision once they hear a ball park price.

                    You could also pitch it to AKM vendors. Sales probably are poor in California since its hard to shoot ammo with bimetal jackets anywhere. I know they're off my 'consider' list just because I can't get brass. If Atlantic, or whoever, offered 500 rounds of brass cased, reloadable, non berdan primed ammo for $X with purchase.... it would work for both parties IMO... then once you're in the door / on their vendor list/s...
                    Last edited by sl0re10; 10-10-2015, 8:10 PM.

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                    • #11
                      gesundheit
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 1147

                      Actually sales of brass cased 5.45 would be great in California due to ban on steel cased ammo due to our drought.

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57175

                        Originally posted by tujungatoes
                        Seeing as how reloadable 5.45x39 is non existent you could charge quite a bit for it. Currently the only option is to cut down and reform .222rem casings which aren't cheap and it's a relatively laborious process. I'd be a happy camper if I could get purpose made brass for less than 50 cents a piece.
                        You can't get new 6.5 Creedmoor cases for 50 cents a piece and there are a WHOLE BUNCH of people buying new brass cartridge casings for the Creedmoor.
                        On a "boutique" reloaders cartridge (which the 5.45x39 certainly would be due to the cost of loaded ammo), I would expect the demand would be QUITE a bit lower and the price to be higher due to the low manufacturing volume.

                        222rem has the wrong case head size to make PROPER 5.45x39 cases, though 222/223 are as close as you can get in cheap brass to start with.
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                        • #13
                          tujungatoes
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 7942

                          I just said it'd make me happy. I knew it was totally unrealistic.
                          sigpic
                          Originally posted by Dr. Elky
                          If your a man who wears white sunglasses, your probably a douche bag
                          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                          I've been know to cross dress and go the other way at certain events.

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                          • #14
                            tr6guns
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 646

                            You could always just buy the Brass cases from here...(if you could afford it)

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                            • #15
                              saltcreep
                              Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 193

                              Originally posted by tr6guns
                              You could always just buy the Brass cases from here...(if you could afford it)

                              http://www.buffaloarms.com/Soviet_Re...x?TERM=5.45X39
                              Ouch!!!!! At least we know the brass exists... Thanks for the link!

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