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  • TWH
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 19

    Etch-o-Matic anyone?

    Has anyone used an Etch-o-Matic to serialize there 80 builds?



    If so anyone care to share their results?

    Is this a better way to go for etching SN's and such.


    I'm wondering about font size, how small can it and still be readable?

    Thanks in advance for any responses.
  • #2
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57111

    If your eyes are good, you can read 1/16" tall characters.

    The biggest issue with etching is getting enough depth.
    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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    • #3
      kendog4570
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2008
      • 5180

      I have an Etch-O-Matic Super kit for sale if anyone is interested.

      Here is their link. http://www.etch-o-matic.com/eom.htm

      Scroll about half way down for the Super Kit

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      • #4
        bohoki
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 20815

        i was thinking about experimenting with photoresist its generally used for making circuitboards

        you paint it on the place you want to etch then place a shield over the areas you dont want to remove (basically a negative of what you want printed (laser print on a transparency)

        then place it over the paint expose it to uv light then wash the paint with a basic solution

        the areas exposed to the uv are removed

        then using acid or an electrolite with dc current it will remove metal

        but i am far too lazy

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        • #5
          kcstott
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2011
          • 11796

          Originally posted by kendog4570
          I have an Etch-O-Matic Super kit for sale if anyone is interested.

          Here is their link. http://www.etch-o-matic.com/eom.htm

          Scroll about half way down for the Super Kit
          so how much you looking to get for it?? and how used is it??

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          • #6
            TWH
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 19

            ATF Requirements

            "For firearms manufactured or imported on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch"

            .003" is not very deep, I think etching can achieve this. I'm thinking of 1/8" font, but will etching be clean and crisp at this size? Seams like everything find on is much larger in size.

            Another though would be to go with something like this.....

            Could be used other things in the shop.

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57111

              Originally posted by TWH
              .003" is not very deep, I think etching can achieve this.
              Etching can do that, it just takes more time.
              Also, the more time you etch, the more the edges lose their sharpness.
              You are better to do it with more current for a shorter time than with less current for a longer time.

              That engraver would do a much better job.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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              • #8
                kendog4570
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2008
                • 5180

                Originally posted by kcstott
                so how much you looking to get for it?? and how used is it??
                It's in real good shape. Lots of juice (electrolyte) left and a ton of stencil material. I made stencils using an old typewriter. I'll send some pictures after the weekend.

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                • #9
                  IrishJoe3
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3804

                  I've played around with electro-etching (Vader-Spade inspired), and have developed my own technique that works pretty well. I did a tutorial at this link.



                  I did all this etching using that technique







                  Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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                  • #10
                    IrishJoe3
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 3804

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels

                    That engraver would do a much better job.
                    Not necessarily true. This was electrically etched. It was timed at 2 minutes 30 seconds. As you can see it is both deep and crisp, (12 v 2 Amps).



                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    Etching can do that, it just takes more time.
                    Also, the more time you etch, the more the edges lose their sharpness.
                    You are better to do it with more current for a shorter time than with less current for a longer time.
                    Case and point (10 minute etch time)

                    Last edited by IrishJoe3; 10-09-2015, 12:46 AM.
                    Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57111

                      Originally posted by IrishJoe3
                      Case and point (10 minute etch time)


                      Thank you for proving my point.
                      Those 10 minute edges are all over the place.
                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                      Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                      • #12
                        IrishJoe3
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 3804

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        Thank you for proving my point.
                        Those 10 minute edges are all over the place.
                        You could always go WAY overboard

                        Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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                        • #13
                          Greg B
                          Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 295

                          Hell, I've got two Marking Methods etching kits I'll give away.
                          Haven't even looked at them in 15 years.
                          You just have to come pick 'em up.

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                          • #14
                            Bralowe
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 734

                            The Etch-o-Matic tool works, but is a bit crude.

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                            • #15
                              VictorFranko
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 13737

                              Many, many years ago I used Etch-O-Matic to mark my machinist tools.
                              Worked quite well on things like angle plates, 1-2-3 blocks and parallels which are hardened to Rockwell 62-64c, making engraving or stamping next-near to impossible.

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