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  • Ishootforblood
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    • Jun 2013
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  • #2
    SonofWWIIDI
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 21583

    IIRC no serial numbers, names etc. are required on an 80% lower unless you eventually sell it.

    And if its hasn't been milled yet, it is (as I'm sure you know) not a firearm according to the alphabet agencies. Whomever you take it to for anodizing should be made aware of that if they aren't already.


    Durakote, cerakote, alumahyde...

    There are other types of coatings out there that you can do yourself. And lots of how to vids available. Including anodizing.

    Or, keep looking. You'll find a shop that will do it for you eventually.

    Good luck.

    Edit:
    Where is local?
    Last edited by SonofWWIIDI; 07-15-2015, 2:07 AM.
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    • #3
      Octaviob
      Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 163

      I have been using a place in Springfield, Ohio that can cerakote lowers for $36. I found them on eBay and they accept Papal. They charge $36 for the plain colors, H-Series coating. Look up cerakote to see what the colors look like.



      The "armor black H-190Q" color matches the matte black color that most AR stuff is coated with. There are 40+ colors in the H-series and this place can do custom work as well. They can get it back to you within a week as well. They have an FFL 07 by the way.
      This is the link on eBay



      Use the small USPS priority box to ship it out to them and they will return it to you the same way at no charge coming back. The owners are very friendly and were extremely patient when I called them on the phone to answer some of my questions about 80% lowers.

      I have used several times and have not found a better bargain. Since the local post office is about a mile up the road it is the most convenient way of getting it done. The closest shop to me is about 20 miles away and charge close to $65 for the same service.

      MSG Limited
      2675 E Main Street
      Springfield, Ohio 45503
      937-327-8100 or 937-325-3900,
      And so it goes...

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      • #4
        kcstott
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2011
        • 11796

        I have run into this same issue at engravers as well. Even shops that have FFL's don't really know how to deal with a unserialized part.

        I merely explain the GCA of 1968 and if they choose to do business with me fine if not I go somewhere else.

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        • #5
          mexicangunlover
          Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 264

          Can of spray paint works real well and only cost $5 bucks...

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          • #6
            Nathan Krynn
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 2107

            Find a shop that will allow you to wait on their property (for a machined lower). Then it is not a transfer, if that is what they are worried about.

            I am not sure ATF Rul. 2010-10 applies for the manufacturing operations (anodizing) as that states "on behalf to specialized licensed firearms manufacturers". Now it might (knowing the BATFE) as you are the manufacturer legally, but your not licensed so that's why I say no it doesn't apply. That is why you would need your legal name for marking (not XYZ ARMS unless you have a FFL type 7 for XYZ ARMS), but that is going beyond this post.

            A company is going to run their company how they want and feel they need too. As kcstott said if they do not want to do something no point in arguing, just move on.
            Nathan
            Tactical Machining
            1270 Biscayne Blvd
            Deland, FL 32724
            Phone 386-490-4464
            fax 386-490-4890

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            • #7
              Wes C Addle
              Banned
              • Apr 2015
              • 1867

              Originally posted by mexicangunlover
              Can of spray paint works real well and only cost $5 bucks...
              spray paint doesn't adhere to aluminum. would be better to to duracoat and better to cerakoat

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              • #8
                SonofWWIIDI
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2011
                • 21583

                Originally posted by Ishootforblood
                Thank you for the responses. My main concern is the longevity of the lowers if they are left unfinished. Specifically, the trigger hammer pin holes, as well as the take down pivot holes, selector hole, etc. Perhaps it makes no difference?
                If that the main concern, just get anti walk pins. They won't spin with the use of the trigger/hammer.
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                • #9
                  saki302
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 7187

                  If you let aluminum oxidize, the thin layer is VERY hard and very strong.

                  Run anti-walk pins if you're wrried about pin holes- raw aluminum in the pocket won't hurt a thing.

                  Want a DIY finish that's good? Brownells alumahyde. Spray it on and don't touch it for a WEEK at LEAST. Once cured, it's plenty strong and chemical resistant.

                  -Dave

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                  • #10
                    kcstott
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11796

                    Trigger and hammer pin wear takes thousands of rounds before you even notice a minor amount of wear. Everyone gets in a wad over this,

                    Unless you are a competition level shooter burning a 1000 rounds a week for practice and what ever you'll burn up at a match, Pin wear would not concern me at all... I think all the hype over wearing out the holes was created by the people that make anti walk pins. it's the old come up with a product, then invent a problem for it to solve...

                    If you're worried about pin hole wear then you have the money in you ammunition budget to take care of it.

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                    • #11
                      Lance-W
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 70

                      Another way to look at the whole wearing out thing is.... It's a $29 lower (assuming you bought that style). If it wears out just toss it and make another.......... They're darn disposable at that price!

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                      • #12
                        lone shooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 2469

                        Originally posted by Octaviob
                        I have been using a place in Springfield, Ohio that can cerakote lowers for $36. I found them on eBay and they accept Papal. They charge $36 for the plain colors, H-Series coating. Look up cerakote to see what the colors look like.



                        The "armor black H-190Q" color matches the matte black color that most AR stuff is coated with. There are 40+ colors in the H-series and this place can do custom work as well. They can get it back to you within a week as well. They have an FFL 07 by the way.
                        This is the link on eBay



                        Use the small USPS priority box to ship it out to them and they will return it to you the same way at no charge coming back. The owners are very friendly and were extremely patient when I called them on the phone to answer some of my questions about 80% lowers.

                        I have used several times and have not found a better bargain. Since the local post office is about a mile up the road it is the most convenient way of getting it done. The closest shop to me is about 20 miles away and charge close to $65 for the same service.

                        MSG Limited
                        2675 E Main Street
                        Springfield, Ohio 45503
                        937-327-8100 or 937-325-3900,
                        Yep, I used them to cerakote an upper and lower. GTG.
                        The koolaid only works if EVERYONE drinks it - Jim Jones

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                        • #13
                          Nathan Krynn
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2107

                          I never really got the anti-rotation devices on a pin designed to rotate.

                          As for backing out the pins have notches in them, the middle notch is for the "J" spring in the hammer to prevent walking out, and the one on the outside is for the hammer spring to hold the trigger pin in.

                          Like kcstott said it takes a LONG time and for reference the military reject spec is .163", so I think you will be fine.
                          Nathan
                          Tactical Machining
                          1270 Biscayne Blvd
                          Deland, FL 32724
                          Phone 386-490-4464
                          fax 386-490-4890

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                          • #14
                            Mp5marley
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1257

                            prices and recent experiences in OC anyone?
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                            • #15
                              kcstott
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 11796

                              Originally posted by Wes C Addle
                              spray paint doesn't adhere to aluminum. would be better to to duracoat and better to cerakoat
                              the hell is doesn't, proper prep is always key.

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