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  • R1145
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 32

    Which bolt carrier?

    Is there any advantage to having a M16-type carrier in a semi gun, or, indeed, an AR-type carrier in the same weapon?

    Which one should one choose if building a CA-legal OLL semi?
  • #2
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57131

    The only advantage will be in a barrel with a carbine gas system.
    Carbine gas systems are over-gassed and need more weight to slow the unlocking.
    In a mid-length or rifle length gas system, the extra weight is not necessary.

    Read more here:
    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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    • #3
      R1145
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 32

      Very interesting. I had actually visited your website previously, but it was good to re-read with an eye towards the bolt carrier issue.

      It seems as if the bigger variable is gas port placement. If I go with a 16" barrel, I'll try to get a mid-length port.

      It also appears that the added weight of the M16-type carrier is beneficial.

      Is there a "downside"?

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57131

        Originally posted by R1145
        Very interesting. I had actually visited your website previously, but it was good to re-read with an eye towards the bolt carrier issue.

        It seems as if the bigger variable is gas port placement. If I go with a 16" barrel, I'll try to get a mid-length port.

        It also appears that the added weight of the M16-type carrier is beneficial.

        Is there a "downside"?
        Heavier buffers and carriers can make the gun jump more between shots.
        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
        Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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        • #5
          glockster
          Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 465

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          Heavier buffers and carriers can make the gun jump more between shots.
          Good scoop as I've never that, Randall. I would have thought otherwise. Can you educate me in laymen's terms how this works. Thanks.

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57131

            Originally posted by glockster
            Good scoop as I've never that, Randall. I would have thought otherwise. Can you educate me in laymen's terms how this works. Thanks.
            Did you read the link above?
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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            • #7
              glockster
              Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 465

              Yeah, I read it and that's why I asked. Unless I missed something, I don't understand how the heavier buffer causes the firearm to jump more. I would have thought that if the buffer was heavier then the carrier would not go rearward with as much momentum thus causing less felt recoil. Maybe it's just my flawed thinking??? I was never good at physics.

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57131

                Originally posted by glockster
                Yeah, I read it and that's why I asked. Unless I missed something, I don't understand how the heavier buffer causes the firearm to jump more. I would have thought that if the buffer was heavier then the carrier would not go rearward with as much momentum thus causing less felt recoil. Maybe it's just my flawed thinking??? I was never good at physics.
                The more weight you put into motion, the more the gun jumps around.

                Basic physics.
                Opposite but equal reaction.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #9
                  aplinker
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 16762

                  If you own or have access to M16 lowers and want to use your uppers with them, that's another reason to have an M16 carrier.

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