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  • olhunter
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2008
    • 3707

    Remove rust from valuable shotgun.

    I know there are several threads on rust removal, but none that include engraving and gold.....

    How would you remove or reduce/stop the rust from this receiver?

    Flitz? Kroil? WD-40? Brass wool?

    Engraved, gold inlay, top-notch bluing, fairly valuable commemorative gun....

    Well....?


    Last edited by olhunter; 12-17-2015, 4:28 PM.
    It cannot be inherited, nor can it ever be purchased.
    You and no one alive can buy it for any price. It is impossible to rent and cannot be lent.
    You alone and our own have earned it with...Your sweat, blood and lives. You own it forever.

    The title is....."United States Marine".


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  • #2
    saki302
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 7187

    0000 steel wool soaked in WD-40.

    Rub softly.

    -Dave

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    • #3
      olhunter
      CGN Contributor
      • Dec 2008
      • 3707

      Thanks Dave!

      How do you get in the nooks and crannies of the engraving?
      It cannot be inherited, nor can it ever be purchased.
      You and no one alive can buy it for any price. It is impossible to rent and cannot be lent.
      You alone and our own have earned it with...Your sweat, blood and lives. You own it forever.

      The title is....."United States Marine".


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      • #4
        saki302
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 7187

        You can fold the steel wool cake into a 'corner', or use a plastic spatula or spoon's sharp corner to press it in gently.

        Be careful when sanding near a sharp edge that you don't wear the blue on the edge too much.

        -Dave

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        • #5
          shafferds
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 1970

          Or walnut media in a Blasting cabinet at low pressure. Tape off the gold area.

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          • #6
            Citadelgrad87
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2007
            • 16907

            Yes, take the time to tape off the gold to protect it no matter how do go about it.

            Good luck.
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            • #7
              kcstott
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2011
              • 11796

              Thing is it ain't valuable anymore.


              If it's really worth it send it to midwest gun works or Turnbull and have a full restoration done. It will set you back about $4000 but hey it's only money

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              • #8
                Tarasdad
                Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 292

                That may be a candidate for taking to a professional for restoration.
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                • #9
                  Gunsmith Dan
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1445

                  That is beyond surface rust so steel wool or any cleaning technique will remove a fair amount of the bluing.

                  So unfortunately the value of the firearm will be degraded since the finish will need to be removed and reapplied, and the rust damage very carefully sanded slowly by hand.

                  The gold is not that big of an issue there is special masking material that would survive in the bluing tank and even sand blasted.

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
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                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57129

                    Originally posted by olhunter
                    How do you get in the nooks and crannies of the engraving?
                    Very carefully.
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                    • #11
                      Sleighter
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 3624

                      I wonder if electrolysis would work or if it would also take off the inlay and blueing. I don't know, but it may be an option.
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                      • #12
                        SWalt
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 8701

                        Considering the subject of the engraving, for me the best solution is to mill the "City of LA" completely off. It would be a nice shot gun then. Yeah I know the City of LA wasn't so disgusting in 1981, but it is now.
                        ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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                        • #13
                          Twystd1
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                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2692

                          Electrolysis will probably pull ALL the bluing and the inlay off.

                          To see if the finish is salvageable. I would keep it simple. Hoppes and a brass brush.

                          From what I can see in your pics. The rust is already corroded the receiver. Hence no amount of rust removal will fix the finish.

                          By the way. Did you get the 2 barrel set with your Itahca? As I have the EXACT same shotgun. I like the rifle sights on the short barrel.

                          Note: I bought mine for 600 bucks about a year ago. In like new condition with the commemorative case. That was good deal. They come up every so often for under a grand. (And for much more as well)
                          The wood has got to be a grade 4 or better. It's really a nice shotgun.

                          More than Likely. It will be cheaper to buy another one online than to try to get yours back to 95% condition.

                          Call Turnbull at (585) 657-6338 and send em pics. They will tell what it costs to get it perfect. I am guessing north of a 1500 bucks to weld up all those pits, sand, file, polish, re-engrave, and blue the action.

                          If it's a shooter. Hell. Just run it.
                          If you need more info. PM me for a phone number.

                          PS: KCstott and the others are dead on. If you have the bucks. You can get it perfect. If not. Kill the rust. (Oxpho) then oil it up and shoot it.

                          -T

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                          • #14
                            javithewrench
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1382

                            If it holds value to you and you want it fixed right, send it to turnbull. I sent in my $1000 lever action and turnbull charged me $1500 to remove rust, remove and fill in tang safety, add half cock hammer, redo the scratched wood, re blue barrel and case harden receiver and small parts. They also cut the barrel down to 16" since I found rust just on the end of the rifling. They do awesome work and felt the price was cheap for all the work they did. May not be worth $2500 to some but it's mine and is not for sale!
                            Here's a few before and after pictures.( may look crappy, posting from phone)
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                            • #15
                              NATEWA
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 5977

                              If it's valuable to you, take it to a pro.

                              If not, do yourself as others suggested.

                              Maybe a gun sock and dehumidifier for the future.

                              Good luck.

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