NRA rifle training = outdated

[SuperSet]

I have yet to see Mothership NRA present anything modern or innovative when it comes to training. This video is one such example.

[ZombieTactics]

The unfortunate burden of the NRA is that they have to represent ALL gun owners, including people who have zero interest in self-defense, LE or military applications.

This is why - for instance - you are never to refer to a firearm as a "weapon" in an NRA class. They consider that a pejorative term, as hunters and target shooters don't necessarily think of it as a "weapon".

It's no surprise that the techniques taught in civilian NRA classes are heavily tilted towards maximum safety on a range, and as such somewhat "lowest common denominator".

[Stan08]

That AR looks disprorportionately huge in her hands; like an M-60 to a regular dude.

Dear Kim: You can also do the following to trim some weight off the rifle thus making it easier to manipulate:
*Use a smaller and lighter optic than that variable.
*Lose the laser unless you need it for night vision goggles.
*Lose the butt pad, I personally don't find those necessary for 5.56mm
*Lose the redi-mag
*Replace that light with an X300 size WML if it matters.
*ETA: Looks like a rifle sized upper, if weight is really a factor use a 14.5 perm mid-length light profile barrel upper

You Go Girlfriend!

Stan

[elSquid]

I have yet to see Mothership NRA present anything modern or innovative when it comes to training. This video is one such example.

What the hell is she holding??? That doesn't look like a model 70!!!!
Krinker plinker.
-- Michael

[Sofatactical]

Needs a VFG , Bipod, Offset red dot.
Other than that , CLOWN TASTIC!

[Case]

Not surprised by this at all. I like the concept but I'm not keen on the execution. I do think that, whenever possible, Training should incorporate techniques for students of varying physical abilities, male or female.

As Stan points out, having a gun that doesn't weigh quite so much would have made more sense. Hopefully they cover that in a separate video.

I lost interest in the NRA training courses when I learned their firearm safety rules. These: http://training.nra.org/nra-gun-safety-rules.aspx

One mans opinion.

[Lugiahua]

NRA civilian trainings have it's purpose, but only for very beginner.
e.g. people who never had a gun before

One a person familiarized with firearms, more advanced techniques such as press check could be taught instead of NRA guidelines.

Personally, while I agree that guns should be secure at all time, keeping guns empty is very counterproductive. An empty gun is no more than a stick against an attacker.

[MossbergMan]

The NRA civilian training is focused on marksmanship and safety for beginners and marksmanship competitors, not the tactical deployment of a weapons systems.
Next, once the basic courses are addressed more current courses are offered, such as Personal Protection Inside and/or Outside the Home....which addresses the safe storage of self defense firearms that makes them readily available for their intended purposes.
The NRA law enforcement training is up to date and incorporating advanced deployment and tactics like the many courses civilians now have access to through various training groups.
If you can find a better, more powerful pro-gun/second amendment organization that provides more training on all the various uses of firearms....join it, enjoy and never look back. Until then, you don't like how or what the NRA teaches get involved and help from the inside out.

[db42]

What she suggested is actually good advice for anyone shooting a featureless AR - where the thumb can't wrap around the grip and the rifle inevitably droops forward.

If you're not using a featureless, then there's no need, to "stock tuck". It's easier to pull the rifle into your shoulder and just let the friction support it, but it's not stable enough if you're using a featureless.

[vtabiker]

The other thing people forget is from my experience growing up the midwest, is most people own firearms...weapons....guns...what ever you want to call them for other reasons than personal defense. As it's been stated that's NRA's core group for these vids.

Also, in my experience the tuck method is a very valid method for someone who might not have the wrist/forearm strength to hold the rifle up. While an AR might be light, a lot of them tend to be very front heavy.


Also, I don't think there is anything wrong with saying a firearm shouldn't be loaded till you're ready to use it. If you have them around for defense then you're using them, they may not be on your person but they're in use.

[Lugiahua]

The NRA civilian training is focused on marksmanship and safety for beginners and marksmanship competitors, not the tactical deployment of a weapons systems.
Next, once the basic courses are addressed more current courses are offered, such as Personal Protection Inside and/or Outside the Home....which addresses the safe storage of self defense firearms that makes them readily available for their intended purposes.
The NRA law enforcement training is up to date and incorporating advanced deployment and tactics like the many courses civilians now have access to through various training groups.
If you can find a better, more powerful pro-gun/second amendment organization that provides more training on all the various uses of firearms....join it, enjoy and never look back. Until then, you don't like how or what the NRA teaches get involved and help from the inside out.

I only hope NRA Law Enforcement level trainings are more available to civilians(maybe with some credential), most of them required you to be active LEO/MIL.

[GeoffLinder]

Actually not such a bad video for beginners to the AR platform. But her stance sucks (leaning backwards) and what the heck is she doing holding the darned handguard so close to the receiver! Sheesh, otherwise an OK primer.

But, that sling she has wrapped is doing a lot of the heavy lifting when she tucks the butt in her armpit and taking load off the grip area through leverage. IMHO, you are better off taking the rifle by the handguard near receiver with weak hand and using strong hand to do malf clearing. Get rid of that butt-stock sling lady, it's just a lousy crutch

[vtabiker]

Damn those competitive shooters and there messed up hold and stances.....

[Sofatactical]

CLOWN SHOW.

[HK35]

Damn those competitive shooters and there messed up hold and stances.....

Shees, obviously not modern enough The buttstock needs to be placed firmly on the operator's pectoral mussels to enable him to instantly adjust reach by flexing his huge muscles.

Also those blinders are a no-go because you won't be able to see enema forces coming at you from your six. tsl, tsk...

Watch how tactical operators operating operationally do it: