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Some of us already felt this way and others dont. I think the article does a great job blending the 2 schools of thought together. Pay close attention to what is said about competition vs defensive training, dry fire vs live fire, human self preservation being instinct, and what competition can do for you on the streets. My favorite point is learning to push speed through competition and see at what point you start to break apart and understand how to tune that down or up while maintaining accuracy. So many great points about the mental side of walking stages and understanding a plan and then expecuting it. Many seem to think that isnt realistic and can hurt you in SD but those of compete know better. At the end of the article he suggests competing to surround yourself with BETTER shooters.
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Ya, both have good skill building opportunities if only gun handling is what you're after. But they have weakness's also..... Competitors rehearse what they do. Start positions are predictable, gear is mostly of 'race' style..... Self defense folks practice 'operator' style with gear to match..... Neither are realistic in day-to-day living..... I've yet to see a video or class that simulates getting out of bed in your PJ's, or off the couch wearing flip flops and shorts with a beer in one hand and the remote in the other with a home invasion staring you in the face..... Basically, training (if it's possible) for the element of surprise..... Where's your gun??.. in the safe??... are you carrying??... Can you make a shot from your position without killing the kid next door in their room if you miss.... Building shooting skills is one thing, but the 'real deal' is another..... Either way, competition is good for the soul..!!!!Last edited by D.carden; 05-02-2013, 1:50 PM. -
Brian doesn't use a 'race gun' he uses a Glock 21 or 1911 from concealment but he does wear 511 Tactical pants.... Actually IDPA has scenarios very close to what you describe.
You guys do know who Michael Seeklander is? Competitve shooter, ex marine and ex cop. He is also a kick *** GM.
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I don't recall seeing him miss that much with the Glock!
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I have a gun on me or with in arms reach all the time. Yes I can make the shot. Do take note of what he said about studying the stages how this relates to real scenarios in SD. I always have a plan and analyze a design depending where I am at. This all due to competition and needing to do the same to engage a stage quickly and accurately.Comment
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One thing that has not yet been mentioned is combat mindset. Speed and accuracy are important but without combat mindset and the will to fight, the prior are pointless.Comment
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I agree, I feel can only be learned though controlled experience, not read or studied in lecture .. Speed and accuracy is an acquired skill, through practice it becomes subconscious, ingrained. Hence, why I shoot competitively. One must have both, not one or the other.
Guys, what is the best way you practice/ develop this?
Especially we are dealing with firearms, we really can't "spar".
Short of enlisting into military or LE, what about these as possible solutions?
Airsoft ?(force on force)
Paintball ?
Martial arts/MMA ? (Learned alot from my early Kenpo days)
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Your definitely a better man than I am...... I dont have the luxury of having a gun all the time..... Also, i've seen plans fail, even at matches. Plan B goes to hell, then the wheels fall off ...aka.. 'the disaster factor'. Happens to everyone... Probably even you.... But in the real world, you die when it fails.......Last edited by D.carden; 05-03-2013, 4:27 PM.Comment
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I dont think there are any solutions..... Any kind of training you involve yourself in will always have some sort of rules/safety/gear requirements no matter how aggressive, hence MMA. Those guys beat the hell out of each other, but they still have rules.... I could go on for ever...!!! Kinda hard to make a plan when you dont know what's coming at you, from where, and how many.... key word 'how many'....Last edited by D.carden; 05-03-2013, 4:45 PM.Comment
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Tagged to read later. Thanks OP.
Quick thought about the subject... "I know for certain, I would not like to be in a gun fight against a lot of the pro shooters!"Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac
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