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  • jeffreyliu838
    Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 121

    Glock 34's

    Maybe I'm stupid or something but I can't find a definitive answer on what division the Glock 34 shoots in. I'm planning on starting to shoot in three gun and I really like the Glock 34, but I don't want to shoot in the open divisions. I'm trying to rig my set up for tac scope. I've googled and searched and the rules say the porting puts the gun into open division, but google says that a lot of shooters shoot the 34 in limited and tac scope divisions. I can't even find a definite answer for uspsa, ipsc and idpa. The ipsc rules actually explicitly say that the 34 is not a production class gun but a lot of people claim to shoot it in production (google yielded threads...). What's the answer?
  • #2
    Chontkleer
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 1197

    Originally posted by jeffreyliu838
    Maybe I'm stupid or something but I can't find a definitive answer on what division the Glock 34 shoots in. I'm planning on starting to shoot in three gun and I really like the Glock 34, but I don't want to shoot in the open divisions. I'm trying to rig my set up for tac scope. I've googled and searched and the rules say the porting puts the gun into open division, but google says that a lot of shooters shoot the 34 in limited and tac scope divisions. I can't even find a definite answer for uspsa, ipsc and idpa. The ipsc rules actually explicitly say that the 34 is not a production class gun but a lot of people claim to shoot it in production (google yielded threads...). What's the answer?
    I suspect the problem you're seeing is that local chapters and matches often fudge the rules, but the fudginess goes away as you progress to regional / national competitions.

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    • #3
      jeffreyliu838
      Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 121

      So if I want to shoot at larger comps, I should stick with a g17? That's a bummer, since I really liked the 34 I shot.

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      • #4
        ElDub1950
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2012
        • 5688

        the G34 is Production Class in USPSA and Stock Service Pistol class in IDPA. Seems the problem is that you want to add a scope. That prohibits you from being in the production class. Check the USPSA.org rules. It's stated right there what's allowed and not allowed in each division. There's very little you can do to a production gun and remain in production division. Adding a 'tac scope' is out. Porting is allowed only if they come from the factory ported. The definitive answer is the spelled out in the rules instead of random google responses.
        Example, for USPSA go to the USPSA.org, click on their rules, go to Appendix D4 lists what's allowed and prohibited in production. Line 13 answers your question about optics. Line 17 answers your question about porting.
        Last edited by ElDub1950; 11-04-2012, 5:39 AM.

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        • #5
          VictorFranko
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2010
          • 13737

          Originally posted by jeffreyliu838
          I can't even find a definite answer for uspsa, ipsc and idpa.
          For IDPA, the G34 is an SSP (stock service pistol) unless you modify it (stippling, beveled magwell, metal guide rod, etc).
          Modified, it would then be an ESP (enhanced service pistol).
          See pages 19-22 in the IDPA rulebook IDPA Rulebook

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          • #6
            prc77
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 2578

            Tac Scope and the G34 is fine. Most 3gunners do not run an open pistol.
            Open div. is usually but not always about the choice of shotgun, Mag feed shotguns, and stickfeed are open type shotguns.
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            • #7
              Yar
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 648

              The g34 is one of the more popular pistol for tac optics in 3 gun. Where your confusion comes in is that your confusing uspsa with ipsc. They are very similar games with very similar rules but it is not the same exact game. In the united states we play uspsa but often we refer to the game as ipsc because it is easier to say pronounced "ip-sick". In uspsa the g34 box stock is ready to go for production. In ipsc (game shot outside of USA) the G34 is excluded.
              The second part is just because the base gun is legal you can modify it to the point it is not legal. Such as installing barrels with ports or red dot sights. Stick with non ported barrels and iron sights and you're good to go.
              Last edited by Yar; 11-04-2012, 9:53 AM.
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              • #8
                cal3gunner
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 1629

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                Last edited by cal3gunner; 09-10-2013, 8:12 AM.

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                • #9
                  icedevil
                  Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 457

                  Everyone has confirmed that the G34 is in fact a great choice for tac optics (and uspsa production and IDPA ssp), but I think your initial confusion goes back to what the rules generally consider "porting". This generally refers to porting of the barrel like on the C models from glock and not the slide cut-out found on the G34. Barrel porting is intended to function like a compensator, which is generally prohibited in all but the most wide open divisions.

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                  • #10
                    jeffreyliu838
                    Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 121

                    Alright right on, g34 it is then. Now I just have to find a private seller since the gun control nazi's won't let people under 21 buy new handguns from stores...

                    Thanks for the help.

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                    • #11
                      Atekhed
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 577

                      Originally posted by jeffreyliu838
                      Now I just have to find a private seller since the gun control nazi's won't let people under 21 buy new handguns from stores...
                      Might want to think about deleting that post esp on a public forum.

                      PPT/private sale is not going to change that. Still against federal and state laws to sell a handgun to anyone under 21 regardless.

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                      • #12
                        prc77
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 2578

                        Originally posted by jeffreyliu838
                        Alright right on, g34 it is then. Now I just have to find a private seller since the gun control nazi's won't let people under 21 buy new handguns from stores...

                        Thanks for the help.
                        C Co. 509th ABN/PFDR
                        83-85

                        USPSA CRO
                        MEMBER: USPSA, GSSF, Richmond Rod & Gun, Sunnyvale Rod & Gun


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                        • #13
                          ElDub1950
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 5688

                          Originally posted by Atekhed
                          Might want to think about deleting that post esp on a public forum.

                          PPT/private sale is not going to change that. Still against federal and state laws to sell a handgun to anyone under 21 regardless.
                          ^^ That! OP you might want to read up the CA gun laws as well as the competition rules.

                          Here's one source http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pd...ms/Cfl2007.pdf

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                          • #14
                            jumbopanda
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 8382

                            Originally posted by jeffreyliu838
                            Alright right on, g34 it is then. Now I just have to find a private seller since the gun control nazi's won't let people under 21 buy new handguns from stores...

                            Thanks for the help.
                            The only legal way for you to get one is to have one of your parents or grandparents transfer it to you.
                            Mo' BBs.

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                            • #15
                              jeffreyliu838
                              Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 121

                              Originally posted by Atekhed
                              Might want to think about deleting that post esp on a public forum.

                              PPT/private sale is not going to change that. Still against federal and state laws to sell a handgun to anyone under 21 regardless.
                              You are mistaken. It is against California state laws. Not federal. Don't get your panties in a bunch, I don't live in California anymore. However I probably will again in 5 years or so and will bring plenty of off roster handguns with me.

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