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  • Spaceghost
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2006
    • 5772

    Front Sight 4 Day Practical Rifle AAR *pics added*

    I am sitting here wishing for a time machine to take me away from work and back to last Thursday. Until that happens, I will tell you guys about my time at Front Sight. I took the four day practical rifle class starting on 9/7/07.

    1. Front Sight is HOT, do not kid yourself. Drink a lot of water before, during, and after training. If you decide to drink a few brews with boys at night, drink a crap load of water before hitting the hay. Laughing at the wrong time is a sign of dehydration. If you find some stupid joke extremely funny, and can't stop laughing, you NEED water now. Don't ask me how I know this.

    2. Front Sight is a lot of fun. The first day and the first half of the second day were kinda slow, a lot drilling in how they want things done. The second two days rocked. Shooting a rifle at night on steel targets is about as much fun you can have with your clothes on.

    3. The instructors are great. Very professional and have outstanding teaching skills. They would give you a tip and track you down the next day to see how that one little bit of info worked out for you. Doesn't sound like much, but with 30 people in a class, remembering who you told what, impressed me.

    4. The facility is top notch. The range was in nicer than any I had been to before. The simulators where you shot at targets in a small valley was loads of fun. Lesson learned, after running up a hill, it is very hard to go prone and hit a target 200 yards away with no magnification. I was breathing so hard, I almost blew off the hat of the instructor with me. In the pistol class the live fire kill houses are also top notch. Ok, ok, ok, ok, they still only have porta potties there, but that was the only complaint. They are still working on all of the sewage/fresh water permits.

    5. I would recommend Front Sight to anyone that wants fairly rigorous training. Most of the days were 11 hours long, the night shoot day was about a thirteen hour day.

    6. Chicks in airports dig guys with long gun cases. Once again, don't ask me how I know that.

    7. The HK 416 is one sweet rifle. A couple of guys in the class had them, they were LEO of course. Watching both of them shoot full auto in the dark was awesome. Thank god it was really dark out there, I would of had a hard time hiding my chubby. A ten inch barrel doubles would double nicely as a flash bang in a small room. The flash coming out the front will give the tango one hell of a sunburn if you miss.

    8. Everyone in the class was very friendly. Learned a lot of good stuff in conversation with different students in the class. Especially the friendly LEO's, and all of them were.

    9. It was so nice to restore my ar to it's intended configuration. Don't worry, I re-fixed the mag before flying back. *Sniff*

    10. They definitely didn't do any sort of hard selling on memberships. They only had one twenty minute, maybe half hour discussion about them. They asked if anyone was interested in a membership to listen, and if you weren't, just talk quietly amongst yourselves.

    My buddy will be posting some pics of us later on this thread. He had the nice camera, so we will have to wait on him to get off work tonight. If anyone has specific questions shoot me a PM, I will be more than happy to answer them.
    Last edited by Spaceghost; 09-12-2007, 2:44 PM. Reason: pics added
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    BB63Squid
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3137

    Re: Front Line 4 day Rifle Course


    Originally posted by Booshanky
    I've got a pretty resilient cornhole though.
    Originally posted by Buddhabelly
    So take your sheeps and go home. You're not worthy.

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    • #3
      BB63Squid
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 3137


      Originally posted by Booshanky
      I've got a pretty resilient cornhole though.
      Originally posted by Buddhabelly
      So take your sheeps and go home. You're not worthy.

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      • #4
        Spaceghost
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2006
        • 5772

        Guided tour

        First post with pics.

        Pic 1 - Firing line #1 milling around what appears the 25 yard line.

        Pic 2 - Long shot of rifle range we spent most of our time on.

        Pic 3 - taken from four hundred yard line. We took shots at the steel targets on the upper right hand side of berm.

        Pic 4 - Pic of the "war wagon" the shelter where the instructor did most of our lecturing and general horsing around.

        Pic 5 - Pic from 100 yard line.

        Second Post with pics.

        pic 1 - Pic of one the two simulators we walked through.

        pic 2 - "

        pic 3 - "

        pic 4 - Milling around the 200 yard line. Notice the cool weather in the distance. A few drops of that rain would of been nice.

        pic 5 - Firing line #1 shooting from the 200 yard line. I am the mall ninja wearing multicam.

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        • #5
          SuperSet
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2007
          • 9048

          Very cool post. Did you end up taking your own CA-legal AR or did you partake in renting theirs?

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          • #6
            Spaceghost
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2006
            • 5772

            We left with Cali legal ar's, made them whole again in NV, and reconfigured them before coming back. My baby misses her functioning mag release....

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            • #7
              AlohaM4
              Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 142

              Was Scott or Mark your instructors? The Night shoot is awesome. I also dug the little canyon tactical run, I hate Piazza's JUNK mail!

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              • #8
                BB63Squid
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 3137

                Originally posted by AlohaM4
                Was Scott or Mark your instructors? The Night shoot is awesome. I also dug the little canyon tactical run, I hate Piazza's JUNK mail!
                Scott was the lead instructor. Mark and Ralph (Scout Sniper) were assisting.


                The night shoot rocked! We even had two LEO's with fully functioning HK416's. So towards the end of the night shoot they stood side by side and went full auto. They looked like they had mini-flamethrowers. I took vids of the night stuff, the sparks flying off the steel was pretty fun to watch.
                Last edited by BB63Squid; 09-12-2007, 10:30 PM.
                Originally posted by Booshanky
                I've got a pretty resilient cornhole though.
                Originally posted by Buddhabelly
                So take your sheeps and go home. You're not worthy.

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                • #9
                  dw1784
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 705

                  what did u guys do after the test? was there a man-on-man or did u guys go to sniper's point?

                  I had Scott and Chuck for the shotgun class and they are a riot! though you might be right about hydration cuz I was laughing a lot! thanks for sharing the pix

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                  • #10
                    hybridatsun350
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5336

                    Looks awesome. I'll go down there and take a class one of these days! haha
                    Dom

                    ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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                    • #11
                      BB63Squid
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3137

                      Originally posted by dw1784
                      what did u guys do after the test? was there a man-on-man or did u guys go to sniper's point?

                      I had Scott and Chuck for the shotgun class and they are a riot! though you might be right about hydration cuz I was laughing a lot! thanks for sharing the pix
                      After the test most of us did some "man-on-man" (bad visual) competition shooting the steels.

                      A few of the students did go to the scenario course and fool around doing some long shots.

                      I did learn one thing though, just because you have a fully automatic weapon, does NOT mean you will put more rounds on target.
                      Originally posted by Booshanky
                      I've got a pretty resilient cornhole though.
                      Originally posted by Buddhabelly
                      So take your sheeps and go home. You're not worthy.

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                      • #12
                        Spaceghost
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2006
                        • 5772

                        We did man on man, and it was awesome! I raced a guy using his 416 on full auto and won by about a quater of a second. I jumped up and down like a little girl after. After that, I raced some knuckle head that couldn't knock his last target down, so after ten tries or so, I did it for him.

                        Originally posted by dw1784
                        what did u guys do after the test? was there a man-on-man or did u guys go to sniper's point?

                        I had Scott and Chuck for the shotgun class and they are a riot! though you might be right about hydration cuz I was laughing a lot! thanks for sharing the pix

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                        • #13
                          BB63Squid
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3137

                          A few more...

                          Wish I could post the vids as they give you a better feel for what was happening.



                          Last edited by BB63Squid; 09-13-2007, 5:56 PM.
                          Originally posted by Booshanky
                          I've got a pretty resilient cornhole though.
                          Originally posted by Buddhabelly
                          So take your sheeps and go home. You're not worthy.

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                          • #14
                            igsr96
                            Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 153

                            Great AAR!

                            The technical term for being dehydrated is...BAD. And there's more shade by the war wagon. Woohoo!

                            Also FYI, Pahrump is open carry.

                            Must. Make. Trip. Out. There. Again.
                            "When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat

                            http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/

                            #unBEARables

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                            • #15
                              BB63Squid
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3137

                              Originally posted by igsr96
                              Great AAR!

                              The technical term for being dehydrated is...BAD. And there's more shade by the war wagon. Woohoo!

                              Also FYI, Pahrump is open carry.

                              Must. Make. Trip. Out. There. Again.

                              I see you have met Scott before... (bad)

                              We almost had a "sad face" incident. The shooter next to me, when we were doing a type III drill had an N.D., dropping the round 8' in front of me. Talk about freezing in my tracks!
                              Originally posted by Booshanky
                              I've got a pretty resilient cornhole though.
                              Originally posted by Buddhabelly
                              So take your sheeps and go home. You're not worthy.

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