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  • #16
    anhero
    Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 267

    She's not big on history and definitely won't want to be berrated about the history of guns and the 2A and marksmanship since she gets it enough at home...
    the history is about American heritage and how the country was founded, April 18th and 19th 1775. Not very many people know the significance of those dates. Not really a history about guns and 2A. Depending on the instructor telling the story, sometimes it's choices made by the colonists for our freedoms, sometimes its the sacrifices that families made, sometimes its about a civil war instead of a revolution. It really depends on the instructors. Sunday, they touch on specific people that fought during the war.

    funny thing is, in an immigrants' perspective, a rifleman is uniquely an American heritage. There hasn't been another country that has given more power to the people after a revolution other than the United States. No, just because you own a rifle doesn't make you a rifleman. Anyone can own a rifle, unless you're a felon, then you're screwed.
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    • #17
      Lucky Scott
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 2603

      How about the rifle requirements? I have lots of old military stuff, (mosins) but I dont think that is ideal.

      I dont have any .22 rifles with a sling.
      (Got one 40 year old open sights sears rifle that was my first gun, and a good winchester with a scope but no sling attachments on it)

      SKS? Not really that accurate of a weapon.

      Do I need to go out and buy a .22 with a scope and a sling?

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      • #18
        Coded-Dude
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2010
        • 6705

        nope. they said they use .22 mostly because of costs and ease of ability to shoot. you can take pretty much any long gun to "qualify" with. I'll be going down with a .308(once i purchase it).
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        • #19
          G-forceJunkie
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2010
          • 6154

          .22's are nice because they are cheap and no recoil. But pretty much any rifle will work. The guy who started the whole Appleseed used a SKS often! About the only physical requirement is that it hold 5 rounds, and be able to reload quickaly. Thus, detachable magazines are prefered, tube fed are the least desireable, and if the mag is fixed (like an sks or 1903 springfield) it should have the ability to load with stripper clips.

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          • #20
            anhero
            Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 267

            rifle requirements

            register at the appleseed web site, look for the shoot that you would like to participate in and contact the shoot boss or any of the instructors for that shoot. more likely than not, the instructors have extra personal rifles that they can bring to loan out, you bring the ammo.

            it's taught as a bring what you have, but shooting 500+ rounds of any 30 caliber gets expensive really fast.

            Also, some instructors will also have extra slings to loan out. just make sure to give back all the loaners back to their respective owners. it's all personal equipment that gets expensive to replace, especially as volunteers.
            67Yankee
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            • #21
              IrishPirate
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2009
              • 6390

              thanks guys. The wife's interested in going so i'll be setting a date for sometime in the first few months of 2011. Do you need to have a sling? I could drill the stock on my Mossberg 702 and add one, but i'd probably have to borrow my friend's 10/22 so that we'd both have a rifle and it doesn't have a sling. he's told me before he doesn't want to add anything to his 10/22 at all, so if i need to find another mag-fed .22lr that has a sling i want to make sure i have some time.
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              • #22
                G-forceJunkie
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2010
                • 6154

                You need a sling. On the cheap, buy a $25 take off 10/22 stock, put a $5 Uncle Miles sling stud on it and drop your friends 10/22 into it. its only one screw holding the stock on.

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                • #23
                  pennys dad
                  Arizona Ex-Pat
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5984

                  this is the sling type you will be trained on: 30 M1 Garand USGI Current Issue Canvis Rifle Sling or USGI Sling Nylon or Cotton. U can buy them on the appleseed site : http://www.appleseedstore.flyingcart...id=10&cat_id=0

                  If possible take ground cover since you will be prone on the ground.
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                  • #24
                    IrishPirate
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6390

                    Thanks, i'll get it sorted out before i go. Probably pick up some shooting mats too.
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                    • #25
                      Lucky Scott
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 2603

                      So if I show up with a SKS with a sling on it, I am good to go?

                      Nobody will give me a hard time?

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                      • #26
                        IrishPirate
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6390

                        From what i gather from their website you can show up with anything that's CA legal. They even tell you to bring ear and eye protection incase you're put on the line next to a loud rifle...loud rifle probably includes an SKS. I think the only hard time you'll get is about how much more money you'll be spending on ammo...they say to bring 1200-1500 rounds. That's about $45 worth of .22, 7.62x39 is gonna cost a bit more....
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                        • #27
                          Lucky Scott
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 2603

                          "they say to bring 1200-1500 rounds. That's about $45 worth of .22, 7.62x39 is gonna cost a bit more...."

                          HHMMM, for what that ammo would cost, i could just buy a Ruger 10/22 just for the Appleseed shoot.

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                          • #28
                            IrishPirate
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6390

                            yeah, i might just try to convince the wife that we should do the same...it's not like having more than one would be bad. I might go with the Henry US Survival Rifle since it's cheap and on my list of guns i've already convinced the wife i really need!
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                            • #29
                              polygunner
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 512

                              When you go to an Appleseed in California you'll need about 500 rds.
                              That's for the 2 day event.
                              The rifleman boot camp, which lasts a week, would require 1200 to 1500 rds.
                              Some of the events in the north east shoot over 1000 rds a weekend but not in Ca.

                              I recommend Appleseed to anyone who will listen.

                              You will not be sorry you attended.

                              The weekend will be more complete if you have
                              -detachable magazine, semi auto rifle capable of accepting a USGI web sling.
                              -zeroed at 27 yards (25 meters)
                              -minimum of 2 magazines.
                              -shooting mat or carpet.
                              -shooting jacket or elbow pads.
                              -stapler, notepad, pen.

                              Look on the Appleseed website forum, there is a section on what to bring.

                              pg
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                              • #30
                                pullnshoot25
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 8068

                                Re: Is Appleseed Project training worth it???

                                Fark yes! Appleseed is worth it.

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