Spinning handgun Shooting/Training.

[Matt P]

I saw a link to this site which featured videos of guys in a Indoor range doing these presentations shooting then spinning around and shooting some more.
They also had some videos of rifle training with shooters bounding forward, while shooers in other lanes continued fire from thier rear.

I have no intention of attending this training, just wanted to figure out where that site is at.

I have spent several hous with a multitude of searches looking for that site.

I have tried all the common words on this site in an effort to find it.

I am pulling togther videos off the net showing a variety of training thats out there.

I wasnt looking to discuss the issues with what creates poor, unsafe, outright dangerous training, more just trying to find that site or simliar.

Thank you in advance for any and all help.

[biochembruin]

was it ade? sounds like some of the stuff they do.

http://www.americandefenseenterprises.com/about/about.html

[Carlosa]

I took a few pistol classes with ADE.
they were allot of fun but i have to admit that it was a bit nerve recking at times.
most memorable was walking into a room full of folks pulling guns out of holsters and loading magazine with out any kind of order or supervision at the beginning of the class.
Non of the instructors from ADE have any real life experience so the class is more of a fun ride that an "actual learn to shoot or defend your self" kind of class. Bill the main instructor, I've been told is actually an IT engineer with no Military or LEO experience.
he does demo allot of spin moves, and point shooting which are more show than practical, but once again this is more of a fun class than anything else. all the targets the student shoot at are shot to hell by the instructor prior to student shooting so there's not much of an enfasis on learning to shoot accurately. as far as safety out on the lane, for "combat handgun one" class there was allot of instructors overseeing the students. there was no drills where you had to shoot behind other students or anything like that.
i know they do teach carbine classes and run a shoot house. maybe they have different approach for the sessions.
anyway way bill and his guys do demo allot of very silly ballerina moves, as well as shooting from the hip and some other stuff that is bit of nonsense. but then i again the classes i took were about 150 bucks and took up about 4 hours of a Saturday morning. so I guess you get what yo pay for

Oh yeah the one thing about Bill, is that he likes to embellish the truth about his business a bit. he'll brag about training navy seals, special forces and playboy bunnies.
he also swears that 4 hours with him will make you a better shooter than a special forces operator.


by the way I'm not complaining. i had allot of fun at the classes, but honestly that's all they were fun

[Carlosa]

was it ade? sounds like some of the stuff they do.

http://www.americandefenseenterprise...out/about.html

oh snaps dood!! i just saw the movies on their site.
i didn't remember just how bad this doods were (i don't mean bad as in bad *** either)!
this doods are just reckless

honestly I'm glad to took a few classes with them. if only for the fact that it help me appreciate the training i got from Scott Ruiz and ITTS.

[biochembruin]

a former instructor is a good friend of mine. i'll just say he prefers to stay a former instructor. they do use some interesting targets, which i enjoy shooting. that being said, i've never taken a class from them directly, and have no plans to in the future.

[HCz]

Small comment - reminded me of Risk inc. Go to Youtube and look up 'Risk incorporated firearm'.

[Matt P]

Thanks very much guys.. ADE, that was the one I was looking for. I remember another where students were bounding forward with covering fire from rifles as one of the promo videos.

You guys hooked me up..

[Matt P]

Ahhhhaaaa.......... I found the bounding forward suff.
It is ADE who instructs this.

Bounding Forward with covering fire

Good times. Thanks again, I knew I had seen this on the web.

HCz, I had seen those video jewels.
I can understand in other countries, thier foundation in training can be dramatically different. That could very well be cutting edge. I feel that as firearms training is concerned, we are quite blessed here with the level of training made available to us due to our firm grasp of the second admen.
Just another reason to enjoy our Thanksgiving.
Thank HCz for taking the time to post that.

[Corbin Dallas]

$1500?? are you serious???

No way I would ever let anyone shoot behind me as I was running up, much less "spin" loaded weapons.

[Gryff]

Mall Ninjas unite! With this training, you could be King of Airsoft Arena!

[Voo]

Mall Ninjas unite! With this training, you could be King of Airsoft Arena!

hahah..

When/where else can you wear matching black pants, black shirt, and black boots and not be mocked..?

I wonder if they teach you to do 720 spins in the Advanced Handgun class..

[Guns R Tools]

No knife throwing?

[Matt P]

Ahhh.... How about just stabbing...

Watch the video and enjoy..
Notice how the handgun is secured before the stabbing element.

2 Gun transition with a stabbing knife motion on target drill

[BerKim]

Why? Did he miss with every shot from the rifle AND the pistol?

[1911whore]

WOW, super duper mall ninja bull crap. I mean it looks cool if you dont know any better but it is all crap. How are there D-Bags in business.