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  • ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 56906

    What you need to get started shooting tactical type matches

    There's always a bunch of threads going asking specifics about what equipment you should buy to shoot xxxxx match.
    I'm posting this as a general guideline, not as a specific gear recommendation list.
    Every person is different in what they like.
    The only way to know what works the best is to GO SHOOT WITH IT.
    It can be expensive to buy everything to test though.
    Your best option is to go to matches and seek out people with the specific gear you are interested in.
    Talk to them about their experience with it.
    They will usually let you try it out.
    If you don't find people shooting the gear you are interested in, there's probably a reason.
    Look at what everyone else (especially the winner) is using as that's a big clue about what works best.

    The shooters at any club are usually going to be pretty accomodating to beginners.
    We want the sport to grow.
    Only good things can come of that.
    All we ask is that you are safe.
    This means you need to be ultra-aware of your muzzle at all times.
    Follow the basic safety rules and you are golden.

    Gather up your gear and go to any local club match.
    It's always easier if you go with someone that already does it as some clubs will not have shooters meetings where you can meet someone to squad up with.
    I take pride in introducing lots of shooters to competition so I actually have some extra loaner gear like holsters, mag pouches, shotshell holders etc...

    At the bare minimum, you will need the following for pistol matches:
    Eye protection
    Ear protection
    Handgun
    Ammo for handgun
    Holster for handgun
    Magazines to hold 50 rounds of ammo
    Magazine holders for magazines above
    Belt to hold holster and mag holders

    Some matches will also have shotgun stages, so add:
    Shotgun
    Ammo for shotgun
    Shotshell holders to hold at least 20 shells

    3gun matches will add a rifle as well, so add:
    Rifle
    Ammo for rifle
    Magazines for rifle to hold at least 50 rounds of ammo
    Magazine holders for magazines above

    Ideally, start shooting just the pistol.
    You will learn the whole safety routine and the competetive shooting "culture".
    Then you can add the shotgun and the rifle to the mix.
    Handgun is much less "gear intensive".
    There are lots of different options to hold shotgun ammo and rifle mags and going to a few matches will let you see how others are doing it.
    Last edited by ar15barrels; 04-12-2010, 8:53 AM.
    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
    Most work performed while-you-wait.
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    QuarterBoreGunner
    Administrator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 9389

    Good info here; let's try a sticky for awhile and see what kind of feedback we get.
    /Chris

    I have a perfect Burning Man attendance record: zero.

    You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
    Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
    Like who?
    Farmers.
    Who else?
    Farmers' mums.

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    • #3
      gose
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3944

      I would definitely not go to a match with shell caddies for just 20 rounds... I carry six 4-rounds carriers + one 6-round carrier + an 8-round arm caddy (that I rarely use though).
      Mags for 50 rounds isn't really enough for rifle either.

      I would also add knee and elbow pads to the list. After you've gone kneeling and had a piece of brass get stuck in your knee, you wont leave home without them
      Shoes with good cleats are a must as well. I've been using football shoes for 15 years and there's nothing better. The cleats will give excellent grip on grass, dirt, gravel, mud and snow but they're still soft enough to give you good grip on asphalt and concrete
      With Oden on our side.

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      • #4
        pinwheels
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 313

        Good info. Thanks!
        One topic not covered, however, is "concealment" (e.g., for IDPA). How much concealment is required? For example, is a vest that extends below the bottom of an OWB holster and mag carriers acceptable? Does it have to be closed in the front, or can it hang open as long as nothing is readily visible?

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        • #5
          JamesY
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 2652

          Another requirement is food and water. Matches can last a long time and ranges might not have food or water available. Also, layer your clothing. Ranges are typically in valleys (at least in the SF Bay Area) and just because it's 80* in Dublin doesn't mean it can't be 60* at Chabot. There have been a few time I froze my ***** off because of this

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 56906

            I started the thread as a general guideline.
            I appreciate all of the additions for specific scenarios.
            However, I also consider those small details to be worked out on a person to person basis.

            If I told you all the stuff that's in MY kit, it would include things such as a full toolkit, oil, sunscreen, mag brushes, rags, schemagh, kestrel, laser rangefinder etc...

            With the basics, anyone can show up at most matches and get started.
            We all know that newbies don't show up to their first match and light the world afire.
            Each match certainly has specific requirements that may be unique to the type of match or to the specific location.
            After your first visit to such matches or locations, you should generally be able to see what those specific requirements are.

            It goes without saying (or at least it SHOULD) that you need clothing for the weather conditions and food/water for the duration of your visit.

            Let's not forget that this thread is about GETTING STARTED.
            We don't need to overload every new shooter to be prepared for every possible situation they may not encounter.
            At least not yet...
            Last edited by ar15barrels; 07-06-2009, 4:55 PM.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #7
              qtrxist
              L4K
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jun 2009
              • 607

              maybe the OP can break it down further to IDPA, IPSC, USPSA etc. no more than that so newbies like me wont get confused with different divisions under those tournaments.
              Caesar salad

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 56906

                Originally posted by qtrxist
                maybe the OP can break it down further to IDPA, IPSC, USPSA etc. no more than that so newbies like me wont get confused with different divisions under those tournaments.
                There's no need to break it down.
                The list applies across all disciplines.
                USPSA is the US sanctioning body for IPSC so if you were to shoot an "IPSC" match in the USA, you are really shooting a USPSA match.

                The only thing you need for IDPA that's not listed above is a cover garment as you have to draw from concealment.

                There are multiple sets of rules for 3 gun and the equipment listed above applies to all of them.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #9
                  qtrxist
                  L4K
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 607

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  There's no need to break it down.
                  The list applies across all disciplines.
                  USPSA is the US sanctioning body for IPSC so if you were to shoot an "IPSC" match in the USA, you are really shooting a USPSA match.

                  The only thing you need for IDPA that's not listed above is a cover garment as you have to draw from concealment.

                  There are multiple sets of rules for 3 gun and the equipment listed above applies to all of them.
                  thanks for clarifying that, i was in the market for gears such as belt, holster and magpouches and i was overwhelmed with too many conflicting requirements as to which one is legal and illegal. i just ordered which ones 'i think' works for me.
                  Caesar salad

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 56906

                    Originally posted by qtrxist
                    thanks for clarifying that, i was in the market for gears such as belt, holster and magpouches and i was overwhelmed with too many conflicting requirements as to which one is legal and illegal. i just ordered which ones 'i think' works for me.
                    IDPA has the strictist rules regarding holsters.
                    If you buy a holster that's IDPA legal, you can use it anywhere.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                    • #11
                      Caseless
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 1649

                      Gloves

                      Neoprene gloves for the fall and winter seasons. Freezing rain means trembling trigger fingers.
                      Full fingered gloves will protect you from a scorching barrel or sharp objects when going prone.

                      Low profile earmuffs for long gun shooting.

                      Optional. If you already have them, then bring two guns of the same type (two rifles, two pistols) to a major match. If one stops working, use the backup gun.

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                      • #12
                        BunnySlayer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 992

                        For any interested we have monthly tactical pistol matches in Corona at Corona gun club. We are very beginner friendly and everyone will be more than happy to help anyone trying to get started. Go to www.coronasportsmensclub.com for info.
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                        • #13
                          Celtica
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 15

                          Barrel lengths

                          Shotgun barrel lengths? Simply whats legal or is there a 3-gun rule? Or is it per match/location specific? (I guess same goes for rifle)

                          Thanks - 'J'

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 56906

                            Originally posted by Celtica
                            Shotgun barrel lengths? Simply whats legal or is there a 3-gun rule? Or is it per match/location specific? (I guess same goes for rifle)

                            Thanks - 'J'
                            I am not aware of any specific rule on barrel length.
                            18" to 21" are most popular.
                            The only limitations with regards to shotguns are how many rounds they hold and wether they have a compensator or an optical sight.

                            Over 8 rounds capacity, a compensator or an optical sight generally put you into open class.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • #15
                              swamp2
                              Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 345

                              Originally posted by BunnySlayer
                              For any interested we have monthly tactical pistol matches in Corona at Corona gun club. We are very beginner friendly and everyone will be more than happy to help anyone trying to get started. Go to www.coronasportsmensclub.com for info.
                              Cool. Can other please post the other locations where such matches take place?

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