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[Citizen_B]

Look at the new legalities in Piazza's life and keep on believing it's nonsense.

Piazza will likely lose his current and upcoming lawsuits. Point is?

How much do you think you'll donate to Piazza's business?

I donated $0 to Piazza's business and don't plan to donate anything either. I have paid very little for a membership and some background fees for services I deemed good value.

[Citizen_B]

Getting your money's worth has everything to do with it. I'm not investing in FS. I'm not supporting them out of the goodness of my heart. They are a "business" that provides a service and if the value is there, and they're not killing baby seals to do it, they get my business.

FS does not have a viable business model, as has been repeated here over and over ad nausea. It will collapse because it's unsustainable. Piazza is a liar and con man. All this is known.

It's a shame FS has been run like this because most of the members I know want FS to be successful. It's just not capable of being that with Piazza running the show. Some credit should also be given to FS in that it has trained an enormous amount of people - who many were first timers. That's something positive anyway you look at it. FS has the potential to be sustainable and a positive influence with the right management.

[-hanko]

You guys are hilarious. I bet if you were to ask every FS member on this board if they think they got their money's worth, the clear majority would say yes. Stop making non-sense claims as if you know how much money FS members on this board "gave" to Piazza.

Glad you're enjoying the comedy.

Look at the new legalities in Piazza's life and keep on believing it's nonsense.

How much do you think you'll donate to Piazza's business?

[-hanko]

What does getting your money's worth have to do with anything? The issue is whether or not FS has a viable business plan/model and financials - and should one continue to invest under the current circumstances.

What do all the following have in common...

American S&L
Texaco
Chrysler
PG&E
J.C.Penny
Neiman Marcus
Jos. A. Bank
J.Crew
Steinmart
Pier 1 Imports

These are all companies that gave people their money's worth but still went bankrupt.

Some of these companies came back because they had a plan which allowed them to obtain financing, etc. Some did not come back.

What is FS's plan?

I'd expect lies and even more lies.

When have we heard the truth from Piazza?

[ARFrog]

What does getting your money's worth have to do with anything? The issue is whether or not FS has a viable business plan/model and financials - and should one continue to invest under the current circumstances.

What do all the following have in common...

American S&L
Texaco
Chrysler
PG&E
J.C.Penny
Neiman Marcus
Jos. A. Bank
J.Crew
Steinmart
Pier 1 Imports

These are all companies that gave people their money's worth but still went bankrupt.

Some of these companies came back because they had a plan which allowed them to obtain financing, etc. Some did not come back.

What is FS's plan?

[Citizen_B]

You guys are hilarious. I bet if you were to ask every FS member on this board if they think they got their money's worth, the clear majority would say yes. Stop making non-sense claims as if you know how much money FS members on this board "gave" to Piazza.

[-hanko]

Member's as well deserve it too, its not like people were not warning them. What he was offering to members was too good to be true and greed blinded the members or maybe they knew and were just getting all they can either way its over just a matter of time. Iggy is a fool, a liar and a bad business man. Just because you made a lot of money does not mean you are good at what you do. If ultimately you fail and have no one to blame but your self your a bad business man. In his case he is also liar and a bad person. He deserves to lose everything in court to pay of people he borrowed money from everything! He is joining other Ponzi schemers of shame!

The bold stuff is what amazes me. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, even better with the fish on top.

PT Barnums' quote about a sucker born every minute definitely describes the FS debacle.

[w00dmaster]

iggy is a lier

Sad states of affairs are simply the results of big and long scams.

i'm a bit sad that so many Calgunners fell for it...hook, line, and large sinkers.

I think every one was just trying to get all they could from FS. Many people I included were screaming from the top of the FS mountain, this cannot be sustained. What I feel bad about is I was attacked for just seeing the reality that others just would not come to grips with. I was saying this is going to fail 4 years ago and called a fool. If Pizza was forced to change his ways 4 years ago or more he may have been able to save it but he is just in too much trouble now. He stole money from FS members and instead of investing it into FS he built million dollar homes for him self and lived a lavish lifestyle on the backs of FS. He deserves everything that happens to him and more IMHO. Member's as well deserve it too, its not like people were not warning them. What he was offering to members was too good to be true and greed blinded the members or maybe they knew and were just getting all they can either way its over just a matter of time. Iggy is a fool, a liar and a bad business man. Just because you made a lot of money does not mean you are good at what you do. If ultimately you fail and have no one to blame but your self your a bad business man. In his case he is also liar and a bad person. He deserves to lose everything in court to pay of people he borrowed money from everything! He is joining other Ponzi schemers of shame!

[-hanko]

I agree but also disagree. Besides all his "salesmanship" and puffery he isn't a good business man. The biggest mistake he made (not including his past ones) was not ensuring FS got very little money from TBD memberships. When he was selling 10,000's of TBD Diamonds for $500, $250 then $125 there wasn't a way for any additional money going to FS other than the $500, $250, or $125. There should have been a stipulation that who ever the member sold the Diamond TBD to would have to pay $1,000 or more to FS to become a member. Instead FS got tons of new Diamond "take any course we have free as many times as you like for a lifetime" members who didn't pay a dime to FS for a membership. The member who sold the Diamond TBD got money, FS didn't. On top of that he cheapened the FS brand by selling lifetime Diamonds for as little as $125. He flooded the market and then limited members on how they could sell them. No advertising, no internet sales, only face to face. He isn't a good business man at all.

You forgot the part about Piazza lying...every time he opens his mouth or posts a bravo-sierra pitch on the web.

[-hanko]

What a sad state of affairs. This looks to be one of the biggest and longest scams in history.

Sad states of affairs are simply the results of big and long scams.

i'm a bit sad that so many Calgunners fell for it...hook, line, and large sinkers.

[Doctor_Chicago]

He has the Nevada Foreclosure suit. He will soon have a Class Action Suit filed by many of its Members very soon.

The Nevada Foreclosure Suit will take a minimum of four months from now.

[Doctor_Chicago]

Only for the doxxing case? How many cases does he have pending against him?

He has the Nevada Foreclosure suit. He will soon have a Class Action Suit filed by many of its Members very soon.

[beanz2]

Well Dr. Piazza won't have to pay anything in the San Diego Doxing Case. ZERO DOLLARS.

Only for the doxxing case? How many cases does he have pending against him?

[Doctor_Chicago]

Well Dr. Piazza won't have to pay anything in the San Diego Doxing Case. ZERO DOLLARS.

[SWalt]

What a sad state of affairs. This looks to be one of the biggest and longest scams in history.

I agree but also disagree. Besides all his "salesmanship" and puffery he isn't a good business man. The biggest mistake he made (not including his past ones) was not ensuring FS got very little money from TBD memberships. When he was selling 10,000's of TBD Diamonds for $500, $250 then $125 there wasn't a way for any additional money going to FS other than the $500, $250, or $125. There should have been a stipulation that who ever the member sold the Diamond TBD to would have to pay $1,000 or more to FS to become a member. Instead FS got tons of new Diamond "take any course we have free as many times as you like for a lifetime" members who didn't pay a dime to FS for a membership. The member who sold the Diamond TBD got money, FS didn't. On top of that he cheapened the FS brand by selling lifetime Diamonds for as little as $125. He flooded the market and then limited members on how they could sell them. No advertising, no internet sales, only face to face. He isn't a good business man at all.